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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:38 pm Post subject: DIY Canister Filter from Lock and Lock Container Reply with quote

 Hi,
 
 I  know  many  of  you  would  have  successfully  made  DIY  Canister  filter.  I  have  prepared  a  DIY  canister  filter  from  Lock  and  Lock  airtight  container.
 
 Inlet  is  at  bottom  of  the  container  (3/4  "  pipe)  and  outlet  is  at  top  lid  (5/8  "  pipe).
 
 Now,  problem  is  that,  i  do  not  have  space  to  put  submersible  pump  in  the  container  to  i  have  to  placed  that  in  the  tank  itself.
 
 So,  on  my  first  try,  i  placed  pump  in  the  tank  and  connected  pump  to  inlet  pipe  (which  is  at  bottom  of  container)  for  pushing  water  in  to  container  and  there  is  no  pump  system  for  sucking  water  from  top  of  container  to  tank.
 
 The  water  flow  is  working  but  there  is  an  air  inside  the  container  just  underneath  the  top  lid.
 
 Also,  there  is  no  powerful  sucking  of  water  from  bottom  of  tank  (fish  waste  material).  I  have  used  Boyu  SP1000  submersible  filter  pump  (power:  8W,  Qmax:  300ltrs/hr).  So,  does  that  mean  i  need  change  the  power  head  to  have  power  full  sucking  of  water  from  bottom  of  tank?
 
 Secondly,  should  i  use  pump  to  suck  water  out  from  container  rather  than  pushing  water  in  the  container?
 
 The  DIY  Canister  filter  and  aquarium  are  placed  at  same  level.  I  tried  to  keep  DIY  Canister  filter  below  the  tank  level  but  then  pump  is  not  providing  enough  power  to  push  water  back  in  the  tank.
 
 I  have  attached  pics  of  empty  DIY  canister  filter  at  this  stage  and  will  place  a  pic  by  tomorrow  of  DIY  canister  filter  connected  to  aquarium.
 
 PS:  I  am  trying  to  build  a  DIY  Canister  filter  because  i  want  to  setup  a  planted  aquarium  and  don't  want  to  buy  costly  filter
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Canister Filter from Lock and Lock Container Reply with quote

                                                   
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 The  water  flow  is  working  but  there  is  an  air  inside  the  container  just  underneath  the  top  lid.                

 Thats  expected,  so  dont  bother.  The  air  will  slowly  dissolve.  Some  people  fancy  adding  a  CO2  tube  and  seal  at  this  place  so  that  CO2  dissolves  well.
 
 
 
                                                 
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 Also,  there  is  no  powerful  sucking  of  water  from  bottom  of  tank  (fish  waste  material).  I  have  used  Boyu  SP1000  submersible  filter  pump  (power:  8W,  Qmax:  300ltrs/hr).  So,  does  that  mean  i  need  change  the  power  head  to  have  power  full  sucking  of  water  from  bottom  of  tank?
                 

 Yes,  thats  right.  Go  minimum  for  600lph  or  1000lph,  you  can  use  reducers  or  spray  bars  to  reduce  your  flow  later.  But  if  your  load  is  too  high  you  ll  spoil  the  little  pump  very  soon.
 
 
 
 
                                                 
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 Secondly,  should  i  use  pump  to  suck  water  out  from  container  rather  than  pushing  water  in  the  container?                

 Currently  you  are  pushing  water  from  container  to  tank,  thats  the  principle  most  of  the  canisters  work-  so  dont  bother.
 
 
 
 
                                                 
manishjv10  wrote  (View  Post):                

 The  DIY  Canister  filter  and  aquarium  are  placed  at  same  level.  I  tried  to  keep  DIY  Canister  filter  below  the  tank  level  but  then  pump  is  not  providing  enough  power  to  push  water  back  in  the  tank.
                 

 As  you  say,  its  with  the  power  again.
 
 
 
                                                 
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 PS:  I  am  trying  to  build  a  DIY  Canister  filter  because  i  want  to  setup  a  planted  aquarium  and  don't  want  to  buy  costly  filter                

 Dont  get  into  such  sentiments,  a  smart  hobbyist  always  looks  to  save  and  balance  out,  dont  worry  if  someone  says  so  too  Smile  just  get  your  stuff  right  on  first  attempt  and  foremost  thing  is  to  make  your  thing  leakproof.
 
 
 Good  luck.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Canister Filter from Lock and Lock Container Reply with quote

 Thanks  Sai  !
 
 Your  provided  information  is  really  useful.  I  will  surely  look  into  upgrading  power  head.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Canister Filter from Lock and Lock Container Reply with quote

 You  can  always  keep  the  power  head  inside  the  tank.  As  mentioned  by  Sai,  try  to  use  a  larger  flow  rate  power  head.
 
 Please  update  your  location  in  your  profile.  Where  are  you  from?
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 I  am  from  Airoli,  Navi  Mumbai,  Maharashtra.
 
 I  will  update  my  location  in  the  profile
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:58 am Post subject: Re: DIY Canister Filter from Lock and Lock Container Reply with quote

 Remember  these  containers  are  designed  to  keep  air  out  of  the  box  NOT  keep  pressurized  water  inside.
 Before  upgrading  your  pump  make  sure  it  can  stand  the  pressure  else  you  might  end  up  with  a  flood.
 Would  also  suggest  keeping  the  supply  pump  just  below  water  level  so  you  dont  empty  your  tank  in  case  of  a  leak.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Canister Filter from Lock and Lock Container Reply with quote

 i  too  tried  with  the  lock-n-lock...  the  lid  started  leaking  under  pressure  ....:(
 
 Best  of  luck  ...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Canister Filter from Lock and Lock Container Reply with quote

 @Abhishek:  I  have  experienced  the  same  when  i  kept  Container  (canister  filter)  ~  1  to  1.5  ft  below  the  tank  level.  If  you  reduce  this  distance  or  keep  both  the  tank  and  container  at  same  level,  i  am  sure  there  will  be  no  leakage  from  lid.
 
 If  still  you  face  the  leakage  then  put  white  sealing  tape  on  blue  strip  of  lid  and  then  close  the  lid.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Canister Filter from Lock and Lock Container Reply with quote

 Is  it  worth  the  risk?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Canister Filter from Lock and Lock Container Reply with quote

 I  would  say  YES..
 
 Do  this  on  holiday  and  just  keep  an  eye  for  may  be  a  day  intermittently  so  see  any  progress  in  leakage.
 
 If  no  leakage  occurs,  then  you  are  done.  Even  as  suggested  by  'vkv'  in  above  post,  you  can  keep  water  supply  pipe  at  higher  level  in  the  tank  (at  least  for  some  days  to  gain  confidence  on  filter's  capability),  so  even  if  leakage  happen,  your  tank  will  not  drain  completely.
 
 Best  of  luck  !!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:05 am Post subject: Re: DIY Canister Filter from Lock and Lock Container Reply with quote

                                                   
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I  would  say  YES..
 
 Do  this  on  holiday  and  just  keep  an  eye  for  may  be  a  day  intermittently  so  see  any  progress  in  leakage.
 
 If  no  leakage  occurs,  then  you  are  done.  Even  as  suggested  by  'vkv'  in  above  post,  you  can  keep  water  supply  pipe  at  higher  level  in  the  tank  (at  least  for  some  days  to  gain  confidence  on  filter's  capability),  so  even  if  leakage  happen,  your  tank  will  not  drain  completely.
 
 Best  of  luck  !!                

 Being  Optimistic  is  good,  But  being  practical  is  better..
 Air  lock  container  are  designed  to  be  air  tight  under  atmospheric  pressure,  Doesn't  mean  they  are  capable  of  maintaining  the  same  under  higher  forces..
 I  not  trying  to  discourage  you  in  any  way,  there  are  some  things  to  be  considered  before  designing  a  DIY  filter.
 You  have  right  idea,  but  picking  a  better  material  will  save  you  a  lot  of  headache..BOL.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:33 am Post subject: Re: DIY Canister Filter from Lock and Lock Container Reply with quote

 @Nidhi:Whatever  you  have  said  is  correct,  Nidhi.  For  me,  my  tank  is  not  that  big  and  will  not  have  that  much  pressure  which  such  container  can  not  handle.  So,  I  guess  this  will  be  fine  in  cases  like  mine,  but  this  may  be  true  that  this  will  not  be  useful  in  big  tanks  with  high  pressure  situations.
 
 With  the  help  of  this,  at  least  i  will  be  able  to  understand  the  capacity  of  such  kind  of  material  and  then  in  future  will  be  able  make  a  really  good  DIY  for  all  kind  of  environment.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:50 am Post subject: Re: DIY Canister Filter from Lock and Lock Container Reply with quote

 Manish,
 The  tank  pressure  has  noting  to  do  with  the  pressure  inside  the  filter  container,  pressure  inside  the  filter  is  produced  by  pump.  The  higher  the  flow  rate  of  the  pump  the  more  pressure  it  is  putting  on  the  container.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: DIY Canister Filter from Lock and Lock Container Reply with quote

 So  guys,  finally  my  DIY  Canister  Filter  is  in-place  and  working  perfectly.
 
 Here  is  my  Discus  Tank.  Discuss  Tank  with  DIY  Canister  Filter
 
 A  plain  set  up  with  white  gravel  and  driftwood.  I  have  placed  a  DIY  canister  filter  (Sponge  and  Bio  rings;  not  added  activated  carbon  at  this  stage)  and  one  under  gravel  filter.
 
 I  have  also  added  one  tube  grid  to  provide  bubbles  from  gravel.
 
 Now,  it's  time  to  get  more  discus  in  my  tank.
 
 DIY  Canister  filter  specifications  are  same  as  per  my  initial  post  and  it's  working  properly.
 
 I  need  one  very  important  suggestion  from  you  all.  Can  i  use  activated  carbon  for  such  Discus  tank?  Or  should  avoid  activated  carbon  for  discus  fish?
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 Congrats..  Activated  carbon  usage  is  a  debatable  thing,  use  it  occasionally  to  clarify  the  water..
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