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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:46 pm Post subject: Connections for 4 pin & 5 pin Frontier timers. Reply with quote

 Hi,  some  questions  regarding  frontier  timer.
 
 1.        I  have  one  4  pin  &  one  5  pin  timer.  I  want  to  connect  one  to  the  lights  &  one  for  the  air  pump.   Can  anybody  please  share  a  connection  diagram  for  both.   I  am  a  total  layman  with  electricals  &  don't  understand  the  diagrams  provided  in  the  manuals.
 
 2.        Can  I  connect  4  different  lights  on  the  5  pin  timer  and  make  different  lights  come  on  at  different  times  and  same  for  off  -  to  increase  &  decrease  the  lights  for  a  day  &  night  effect  ?  If  yes  please  share  the  diagram.
 
 3.        Where  can  I  get  a  relay  for  a  4  pin  timer  in  Mumbai  ?  Where  in  Mumbai  can  I  get  a  frontier  timer  repaired  ?
 
 4.         How  can  we  protect  the  timers  from  voltage  fluctuations  ?  will  a  stabilizer  help  ?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:22 am Post subject: Re: Connections for 4 pin & 5 pin Frontier timers. Reply with quote

 First  off  I  would  suggest  that  if  you  are  not  aware  of  the  principles  of  working  with  240vac  current,  do  not  attempt  this  yourself.  Get  an  electrician  to  do  it  for  you.  No  point  risking  life  or  a  fire  to  save  a  couple  of  bucks.
 
 That  said
 
 1)  in  both  the  timers,  there  would  be  2  pins  marked  "input".  Connect  the  wires  from  the  wall  plug  to  these.  Neutral  and  line  identification  needs  a  tester  to  confirm.  AC  current  can  theoretically  be  wired  without  bothering  about  neutral  but  why  not  do  it  correctly.  Of  course  you  could  always  flip  the  plug  around  .
 
 There  would  be  2  pins  marked  output.  Connect  your  device  to  these.  You  can  wire  it  to  a  switchboard  to  connect  multiple  devices.
 
 2)  I  have  not  seen  the  5  pin  timer  myself  but  it  cannot  be  used  to  control  devices  separately.  Either  they  all  turn  off  or  all  turn  on  at  the  same  times.
 
 3)  why  do  you  need  a  relay?  Are  you  planning  to  repair  the  timer  yourself?  Not  advisable  if  you  are   a  noob  with  electricals.  Relays  can  be  obtained  at  lamington  road.   note  that  relays  come  in  many  configurations.
 
 4)  Dont  know  but  it  might  not  be  worth  the  effort.  Try  some  of  the  local  electronic  repair  shops.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:25 am Post subject: Re: Connections for 4 pin & 5 pin Frontier timers. Reply with quote

 Thanks  Venkat,  that  was  a  lot  of  help.   I  had  got  the  4  pin  timer  installed  by  our  'family  electrician'  Smile   However  he  was  somehow  unable  to  connect  the  5  pin  one  I  recently  purchased.  Thought  he  might  have  doing  the  connections  wrong.  But  maybe  it  had  some  manufacturing  faults.   I  sent  it  for  replacement.   
 
 I  also  had  one  4  pin  timer  which  got  damaged  during  a  recent  electric  incident  in  our  location.   On  contacting  NSK  Electricals  they  think  the  relay  might  have  gone.   Hence  wanted  to  locate  the  relay  so  that  my  electrician  can  replace  the  same.  Just  an  option,  other  one's  that  I  send  it  to  NSK  for  repairs.
 
 Thanks  again  for  your  effort  to  reply  to  such  a  long  thread,  appreciate  your  efforts  Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: Connections for 4 pin & 5 pin Frontier timers. Reply with quote

 Hey  Plz.  check  your  PM..
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: Connections for 4 pin & 5 pin Frontier timers. Reply with quote

 Hey
 
 I  too  have  a  5  pin  Frontier  timer
 
 Could  anybody  help  with  how  to  use  the  same.
 
 I  am  currently  using  4  pin  2  nos.
 
 One  wiring  I  did  myself  copying  ditto  the  job  done  by  LFS.  Both  working  fine.
 
 
 Rgds
 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: Connections for 4 pin & 5 pin Frontier timers. Reply with quote

 Join  1  and  3  with  wire  and  2  with  one  side  of  a  plug  point.  Connect  5  with  another  side  of  the  plug  point.  Connect  1  with  the  Line  and  2  with  Neutral  of  AC  line.
 Now  operate  your  gadget  through  the  plug  point.  Connector  no  4  is  not  used  for  normal  use.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: Connections for 4 pin & 5 pin Frontier timers. Reply with quote

 Thanks  Aquamad
 
 Will  try  out  and  revert
 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: Connections for 4 pin & 5 pin Frontier timers. Reply with quote

 Since  the  topic  is  on,  want  to  know  -  what  is  the  additional  thing  5pin  model  has  over  4pin  ?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:46 am Post subject: Re: Connections for 4 pin & 5 pin Frontier timers. Reply with quote

 Possibly  uses  the  NC  and  NO  pins  of  the  relay  to  provide  two  outputs  that  are  like  a  toggle.
 One  set  is  switched  on  and  the  other  off  and  vice  versa  when  the  relay  triggers.
 Instruction  manual  should  have  the  details.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:43 am Post subject: Re: Connections for 4 pin & 5 pin Frontier timers. Reply with quote

 Deepak
 At  least,  Take  a  snap  of  the  timer  from  top  and  bottom  and  post,  So  that  people  can  have  some  clue  as  to  what  it  is  like.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:36 am Post subject: Re: Connections for 4 pin & 5 pin Frontier timers. Reply with quote

 Venkat  said  it.  It  basically  works  as  a  2  way  switch.  When  it  switches  off  one  pin  it  automatically  swicthes  on  the  other.  I  have  used  it  in  my  tank  for  the  co2  and  aeration  pump.  So  when  the  co2  shuts  off,  the  aeration  pump  turns  on  and  vice-versa.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: Connections for 4 pin & 5 pin Frontier timers. Reply with quote

 Thanks  Ruchit  and  venkat  for  that.  NC/NO  makes  sense  and  useful  between  aeriation  and  CO2  or  main  light  and  show  light  etc.
 I  will  look  for  it  in  my  next  turn.
 
 To  OP,  as  Nidhi  mentioned,  a  photo  of  timer  and  your  setup  where  and  what  you  intend  to  do  would  help.  About  the  bad  timer  you  got,  remove  the  relay  and  take  it  to  electronics  market  (lamington  road  or  so)  to  get  replacement.  Needs  a  good  handle  on  soldering  skill,  (board  is  of  good  quality  but  still  made  delicate/precision  in  this  timer)  for  diy.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Connections for 4 pin & 5 pin Frontier timers. Reply with quote

 Thanks  Venkat,  I  wanted  this  function  from  the  5  pin  timer  exactly.
 
 I'm  not  able  to  upload  a  pic  of  my  timer.  Pls  help  it's  giving  the  following  error  "Upload  Error:  Could  not  upload  Attachment  to  ./modules/Forums/files/timer_154.jpg"  it's  a  79.8  kb  file.
 
 I  want  to  run  the  timers  on  my  aquarium  lights,  CO2  reactor  &  an  aerator.   Do  I  have  to  use  both  the  4  pin  &  5  pin  timers  ?  I  guess  I'll  have  to  use  the  4  pin  for  the  lights  &  the  5  pin  for  the  CO2  &  aerator.
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