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vishu1708 Frequent Visitor to IAH

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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:59 pm Post subject: my cabomba dying help please!! |
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hi, i am having problem with growing cabomba carolina . i put them in my tank around 2 weeks ago , before that they were in my out door pot . their tops turned brownish white but grew with a steady rate . but now they have suddenly stopped growing . their tops have turned completely white . this has happened to me before but i did not have any substrate at that so i suspected that no substrate was the reason . i know they will soon start breaking off.
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substrate : thin layer of black soil , 3 inch layer of sand
light: 20W X 2 CFL(cool daylight) 15W X1 CFL (warm sunlight)
fishes 7 guppys 1 betta 3 mollys and lots of wild shrimps . what is its reason and how can i prevent it |
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AshwinMathew IAH New Member

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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:56 pm Post subject: Re: my cabomba dying help please!! |
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Maybe there is not enough co2 in the tank..also lack of nutrients can cause the leaves to lose their coloration.
Do you supply co2??
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khandar Frequent Visitor to IAH

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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: my cabomba dying help please!! |
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All plants need time to acclimate in a new tank.
I would keep an eye out for new shoots and leaves.
If they are not sprouting, then start to worry.
Cabomba has grown well in my tank most of the time.
But time to time a few shoots melt after being trimmed.
Just a thought.
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jabba Committed Member of IAH

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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: my cabomba dying help please!! |
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Please provide the tank size...Also do you have hard water at your place?. |
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vishu1708 Frequent Visitor to IAH

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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: my cabomba dying help please!! |
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There is no co2 supply . co2 from fishes only.
Arin they grew well for the first week but have now suddenly stopped growing.
The tank' 18 gallons . it contains 15-16 gallons of water
Hard water? Have no idea .
As i have already mentioned they grow very well in the outside pot of 15 gallons
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AshwinMathew IAH New Member

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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: my cabomba dying help please!! |
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They grow very well outside because they receive enough sunlight..
they grew well for the first week because they had enough nutrients stored in them..now since they have used up all the nutrients..i guess they are lacking nutrients...the lighting seems fine to me though.
try introducing DIY CO2.
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bettaji Regular Poster on IAH

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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: my cabomba dying help please!! |
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Vishu,
Can you tell us the size/dimensions of your tank ? |
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vishu1708 Frequent Visitor to IAH

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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: my cabomba dying help please!! |
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Bettaji the dimensions are 60X30X38 |
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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: my cabomba dying help please!! |
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Bettaji h=38 cm l=60 cm b=30 cm |
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bettaji Regular Poster on IAH

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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: my cabomba dying help please!! |
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Vishu,
There are three pigments in plants which gives it the coloration 1. chlorophyll 2. carotenoides 3. Anthocyanins
the chlorophyll gives the green coloration the carotenoides gives the yellow coloration and anthocyanins gives the reds and the purple coloration. Now the characteristic of chlorophyll is that it is very unstable and it breaks up easily under high lighting and the plant needs the nutrients and Co2 to build it back but if does not happen the carotenoides are exposed thats why you see the yellow coloration this is called cholorosis. Even at this time sufficient nutrients are not given then the carotenoides also breaks up. Thats why you saw the white coloration. If care is not taken at this point the plants start to disintegrate this is what is called as necrosis.
Cause for your problem
you have about 3.5 watts of lighting in your aquarium which is on the bit higher for a non Co2 aquarium. In a planted aquarium growth is driven by 3 factors 1.Lighting 2.Co2 3.Ferts. And for success all three should be in balance.
Since your aquarium does not have pressurized Co2 system my advice would be to reduce the lighting to around 50Watts your current total adds upto 65 Watts
Secondly if possible change the light spectrum 6500 kelvin. I remember one of your light had a warm white rating which is around 4500 K and emits a spectrum which does not overlap too much with the photosynthetic spectrum
also make sure that you supplement this with sufficient nutrients. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:29 am Post subject: Re: my cabomba dying help please!! |
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Vishnu,
As you are not having any CO2 support at the moment, please start the DIY CO2 or start giving Glut Dosing.
Without CO2 the plants will not thrive. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: my cabomba dying help please!! |
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bettaji wrote (View Post):
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Vishu,
There are three pigments in plants which gives it the coloration 1. chlorophyll 2. carotenoides 3. Anthocyanins
the chlorophyll gives the green coloration the carotenoides gives the yellow coloration and anthocyanins gives the reds and the purple coloration. Now the characteristic of chlorophyll is that it is very unstable and it breaks up easily under high lighting and the plant needs the nutrients and Co2 to build it back but if does not happen the carotenoides are exposed thats why you see the yellow coloration this is called cholorosis. Even at this time sufficient nutrients are not given then the carotenoides also breaks up. Thats why you saw the white coloration. If care is not taken at this point the plants start to disintegrate this is what is called as necrosis.
Cause for your problem
you have about 3.5 watts of lighting in your aquarium which is on the bit higher for a non Co2 aquarium. In a planted aquarium growth is driven by 3 factors 1.Lighting 2.Co2 3.Ferts. And for success all three should be in balance.
Since your aquarium does not have pressurized Co2 system my advice would be to reduce the lighting to around 50Watts your current total adds upto 65 Watts
Secondly if possible change the light spectrum 6500 kelvin. I remember one of your light had a warm white rating which is around 4500 K and emits a spectrum which does not overlap too much with the photosynthetic spectrum
also make sure that you supplement this with sufficient nutrients.
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: my cabomba dying help please!! |
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Thnxxx everyone . it seems that co2 was the problem. Have no done a diy co2 taken he plants have started growing again .
Bettaji thnxx for the info proved really helpful and informative must have take u a lot of time to type it!!!!! |
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