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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:56 pm Post subject: Cleaning sand type gravel Reply with quote

 I  have  a  fresh  water  tank  with  top  filter.
 The  tank  size  is  4'  x  18"  X  2'
 
 The  gravel  in  the  tank  is  very  small  white  and  brown  stone  almost  as  if  they  were  sand.
 
 I  use  the  ehiem  gravel  cleaner  to  clean  the  gravel,
 But  the  dust  that  gets  caught  up  in  the  sand  type  gravel  is  very  small  and  cannot  be  blocked  by  the  filter  media  in  the  ehiem  gravel  clean  and  end  up  going  back  into  the  tank.
 
 After  gravel  cleaning  the  water  starts  to  look  muddy  which  clears  away  in  15   -20  min.
 
 What  is  the  best  way  to  clean  the  gravel  when  the  dust  caught  in  the  gravel  is  ultra  small.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:25 am Post subject: Re: Cleaning sand type gravel Reply with quote

 Use  a  flexible  pipe  attached  to  the  outflow  of  your  vacuum  cleaner,  and  remove  the  water  completely  from  the  tank,  maybe  into  a  bucket.  This  gives  more  suction  power  to  the  gravel  vacuum,  as  well  as  keeps  the  gunk  out  of  your  tank  water.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:44 am Post subject: Re: Cleaning sand type gravel Reply with quote

 Ugggh,
 
 Removing  all  the  water  from  a  tank  my  size  i  will  need  20-30  buckets(or  even  more)  which  is  not  so  practicle.
 
 My  problem  is  not  that  the  gravel  cleaner  does  not  have  suction  power.  It  is  able  to  suck  out  the  dust  but  the  problem  is  the  dust  is  so  tiny  that  they  are  thrown  back  into  the  tank.
 
 I  guess  instead  of  using  a  gravel  vacuum  that  throw  it  back  into  the  tank  i  will  have  to  use  a  vacuum  that  just  throws  out  the  water  and  consider  it  as  water  change.
 
 Any  more  ideas?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:05 am Post subject: Re: Cleaning sand type gravel Reply with quote

 You  misunderstood.  Not  all  water  needs  to  be  removed.  It  wouldn't  be  a  "Partial  Water  Change",  then  would  it?
 
 A  lot  of  us  use  gravel  siphons  to  do  this,  vacuum  operated  or  battery  operated.  It  results  in  a  gravel  cleaning  and  partial  water  change  at  the  same  time.
 
 In  case  you  are  facing  the  issue  that  the  gunk  gets  back  into  the  tank  water,  then  the  obvious  solution  is  to  remove  it  outside  the  tank,  isn't  it?
 
 This  is  a  battery  operated  one:
 Ebay  -  Haqos  Battery  Operated  Gravel  Vacuum
 
 This  is  a  siphon  or  vacuum  operated  one:
 Ebay  -  Gravel  Vacuum  Siphon
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:16 am Post subject: Re: Cleaning sand type gravel Reply with quote

 I  am  using  something  on  the  lines  of  haqoa  battery  operated  one  but  mine  is  from  ehiem.  
   this  one  http://www.ebay.in/itm/like/191211858807?aff_source=Sok-Goog
 
 The  problem  is  it  sucks  the  dust  and  throws  the  water  back  into  the  tank.  small  dust  particles  are  not  filters  by  the  media  they  have  provided.
 
 I  guess  i  will  have  to  use  some  indian  jugaad  intead  of  these  tech  stuff.
 
 Gravel  cleaning  is  more  like  a  hobby  thing  and  is  done  by  my  mom  at  times.  I  can't  expect  her  to  initiate  the  water  change....   Is  there  a  better  way  so  as  to  separate  the  gravel  cleaning  and  water  change  situation.  As  of  now  i  just  told  my  mom  to  not  go  deep  into  the  gravel  and  just  pickup  the  dirty  on  top  of  the  gravel.
 if  she  digs  into  the  gravel  is  where  there  are  ultra  small  dust  come  out  and  gets  distributed  into  the  tank.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:34 am Post subject: Re: Cleaning sand type gravel Reply with quote

 Haqos  battery  operated  gravel  vacuum....  how  is  the  filter  media  in  this  will  it  be  able  to  filter  out  ultra  small  dust  particles  ?
 
 I  was  thinking  if  i  could  tie  and  addition  thin  fabric  around  the  filter  of  the  hagos  gravel  vacuum  would  it  help?
 
 In  the  ehiem  one  i  have  there  is  no  way  to  tie  any  additional  fabric  for  additional  filtration
 
 Please  advice
 
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