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Can I introduce Ghost Shrimp into my setup?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:26 am Post subject: Ghost Shrimp in a Fish Bowl Reply with quote

 I  have  a  few  Guppies  and  Zebra  Danios  in  the  largest  Bowl  you  can  find  (~3  gallons).  It  also  has  5-6  plants  and  moss  and  caves  made  of  rocks.  Can  I  put  one  or  two  Ghost  Shrimps  inside  to  help  with  eating  of  excess  food  and  other  waste  /  dead  leaves?
 
 Where  in  Chennai  can  I  get  hold  of  Ghost  Shrimps?  I  don't  mind  buying  from  another  city  and  pay  for  shipping,  if  anyone  is  willing  to  sell  a  couple.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: Ghost Shrimp in a Fish Bowl Reply with quote

 you'll  have  to  go  to  kolathur.  go  there  on  any  weekday  before  8  in  the  morning.  you'll  find  a  lot  if  street  vendors  selling  huge  quantities  of  live  worms,   shrimps,   feeder  fish,  juvenile  common  snakeheads,   knife  fish  and  many  more.  you  can  always  request  for  a  small  number  of  shrimps  and  they  will  be  more  than  happy  to  sell..
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:54 am Post subject: Re: Ghost Shrimp in a Fish Bowl Reply with quote

 Thanks  for  the  buying  advice.  Since  I  wake  up  for  Ramadan  fasting,  I  can  reach  West  Mada  Street  (suggested  in  buy  section)  by  6:30  AM.  However,  I  also  want  your  thoughts  on  whether  it'd  be  a  good  idea  to  keep  Shrimp  to  act  as  scavengers  of  fish  waste  and  excess  food.
 
 I  currently  have  the  largest  fish  bowl  one  can  buy  with  (see  image):
 2  Zebra  Danios
 1  Tetra
 3  Fancy  Guppies
 5  Plants
 
 I  already  ordered  Moss  and  another  Fern  (Wrinkle  Leaf)  to  be  added  to  the  bowl.
 
 I  originally  had  this  bowl  in  Bangalore  and  recently  moved  to  Chennai  along  with  it.  My  Danios  and  Tetra  have  been  with  me  for  over  20  months.  A  couple  of  fishes  died  the  first  time  I  changed  water  in  Chennai.  Used  tap  water  kept  out  for  a  couple  of  days.  In  Bangalore,  I  used  to  use  water  from  my  home  R/O  system,  now  I  am  using  water  from  Water  Cans.
 
 


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: Ghost Shrimp in a Fish Bowl Reply with quote

 Lovely  bowl  there  Shahid!!
 I  hate  to  discourage  your  efforts,  but  please  do  not  keep  fish  in  that  bowl,  shrimp  should  be  fine.
 Its  best  to  go  for  a  small  rectangular  tank,  for  the  fish.
 
 And  is  that  amazon  sword  you  have  in  there?  My  opinion  would  be  to  go  for  some  low  maintenance  plants  like  anubias/ferns/mosses.
 And  what  do  you  plan  to  have  for  filtration?  How  often  are  you  changing  the  water?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: Ghost Shrimp in a Fish Bowl Reply with quote

 You  can  see  what  I  have  above  the  images  I  posted.  I  do  realise  the  inch  per  gallon  rule,  which  essentially  allows  me  to  have  four  small  fishes,  since  my  bowl  holds  more  than  3  gallons.  However,  it  was  due  to  necessity  not  choice,  since  I  lived  in  a  rented  apartment  where  I  couldn't  keep  a  tank.  However,  as  you  can  see,  there  is  a  pretty  thick  layer  of  substrate  and  many  plants  to  break  down  nitrates,  in  addition  to  my  once  every  less  than  a  week  frequency  water  changes.
 
 I  keep  a  strong  vigil  on  them  and  often  find  them  happy  and  swimming  all  through  out  the  bowl  and  through  the  plants  and  caves/tunnels.  I  also  feed  them  sparingly,  so  they  are  mostly  trying  to  pick  whatever  food  they  can  from  the  substrate  or  the  nooks  and  corners  next  to  the  stones.  The  only  think  missing  though  are  the  scavengers.  Earlier  I  had  a  couple  of  snails  who  did  a  good  job,  but  they  died  as  well  on  my  first  water  change  in  Chennai.  Hence,  I  plan  to  keep  a  couple  of  shrimps  as  well.
 
 I  do  plan  to  keep  a  big  tank,  currently  saving  up.  If  I  have  a  tank,  I  plan  to  make  it  really  big  and  planted.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:08 pm Post subject: Re: Ghost Shrimp in a Fish Bowl Reply with quote

 If  you  are  looking.  for   scavengers  of  fish  waste  and  excess  food,   I'd  suggest  you  to  go  for  Malaysian  trumpet  snails  (MTS).   They  do  a  brilliant  job  when  it  comes  to  cleaning  and  they  do  look  beautiful.  they  also  benefit  a  planted  aquarium  by  aerating  the  substrate  as  they  burrow  in  during  day  time.  compared  to  other  pest  snails,   you  will  find  these  snails  very  useful.  beware,   do  not  over  feed  as  they  can  breed  fast.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:46 pm Post subject: Re: Ghost Shrimp in a Fish Bowl Reply with quote

 Glad  to  know  you  are  providing  the  best  possible  conditions  to  your  fish  in  that  bowl   Clapping  
 I  discouraged  using  a  bowl  more  for  the  shape  of  the  bowl  than  the  filtration  limitations,  which  can  be  addressed  with  some  DIY.
 I've  read  fish  feel  better  in  tanks  with  corners,  and  the  bowl  has  none  unfortunately  :(
 
 About  the  plants  using  up  nitrates,  if  my  understanding  is  correct,  nitrates  are  formed  out  of  nitrites  which  in  turn  is  created  from  ammonia.
 And  the  beneficial  bacteria  responsible  for  doing  this  conversion,  need  some  form  of  water  circulation.  A  simple  air  stone  can  provide  this  circulation.  However,  the  nitrate  uptake  by  plants  will  depend  on  their  growth  rate  which  is  directly  controlled  by  what  lights  you  have  and  also  the   co2  availability.  No/low  lights  and  co2,  and  slower  nutrient  uptake.  Any  imbalance  between  fish  bio-load  (directly  proportional  to  no.  and  type  of  fish)  and  nutrient  uptake,  and  you  get  algae  !!  And  algae  in  a  bowl  especially  is  not  easy  to  clean   Shocked  Experts  may  please  correct  me  if  I  am  wrong  with  my  understanding  above   Smile  My  intention  is  just  to  keep  you  from  making  some  common  beginner  mistakes,  nothing  more  nothing  less   Smile   
 
 Whatsoever,  nobody  can  stop  you  from  having  a  fish  bowl.  People  have  had  successful  bowl  setups  and  there's  no  reason  why  you  cant  have  one  too  Very Happy  I  live  in  a  650  sq.  feet  rented  house  and  have  3  planted  tanks  already  (much  to  my  wife's  annoyance   Chuckle  ).  I  am  planning  to  setup  a  low-maintenance  planted  shrimp-only  bowl  in  my  bedroom  and  will  closely  follow  your  progress  for  ideas   :)
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:39 pm Post subject: Re: Ghost Shrimp in a Fish Bowl Reply with quote

 Put  a  Nerite  snail  or  2.  It  will  take  care  of  left  over  food  and  algae  too.  However  all  the  green  algae  of  a  natural  look  will  change.  Yes  they  clean  the  bowl  and  make  it  crystal  clear.  Cover  the  top  or  put  some  Vaseline  on  the  rim  of  the  bowl  so  that  the  Nerites  don't  fall  out.
 
 The  Danio's  will  attack  the  shrimps.  If  you  remove  them  and  the  Tetra  the  shrimps  will  have  much  more  fun  with  the  guppies  as  tank  mates.
 
 If  you  get  Ceratophyllum  aka  Hornwort.  Float  it  at  the  top.  
 
 This  setup  of  mine  has  only  Hornwort  in  it  with  some  shrimps  in  it.
 
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 Thanks  for  your  input  superbsite.  I  was  originally  looking  for  Nerites,  but  then  someone  said  it  only  eats  algae  and  not  detritus,  so  I  didn't  pursue  that.  In  addition,  in  Chennai,  it  is  very  difficult  for  me  to  find  regular  snails,  let  alone  Nerites  Sad.
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 So,  I  finally  made  the  trip  to  Kolathur  and  got  myself  a  couple  of  Ghost  Shrimps.  Initially  they  kept  crawling  in  circles  at  the  bottom  half  of  the  bowl,  but  later  managed  to  find  the  little  cave  I  made  for  them.  Should  have  put  two.  I  have  two  tunnels  and  the  other  one  hides  under  the  smaller  one.  Before  adding  the  shrimps,  I  added  a  couple  of  more  plants  and  removed  the  Valisneria  from  the  centre  (unlike  the  seller,  Sree  Padma  website  mentioned  that  it  needs  a  lot  of  light  and  it  was  beginning  to  get  root  rot).
 
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 Great  work  shahid,  these  bowls  reminds  me  of  my  planted  bowls  Clapping  
 but  unfortunately  I  had  to  break  that  setup  while  moving  to  other  house.  
 One  suggestion-  u  can  keep  only  shrimps,  as  it  reduces  the  load  on  unfiltered  bowl.  if  at  all  u  ve  to  ve  fish-  consider  small  air  breathers  like  male  guppies.
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 What's  the  size  of  your  bowl  !!
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 If  you  see  the  shrimps  (males)  running  round  and  round  in  a  bowl  it  will  be  because  a  female  has  molted  and  she  is  vulnerable  and  they  are  excited   Chuckle
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 By  the  way,  your  bowl  is  looking  good   Thumb Up   Clapping
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