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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:26 pm Post subject: Regarding T5 light fixture Reply with quote

 Hi  guys  i  have  a  T5  fixture  (aquasonic)  with  2  tubes  2ft  long  28W  each  (12000K).  Hav  three  questions.
 
 1)  Is  it  possible  to  replace  the  existing  tubes  with  (6500K)  ones.  I  am  asking  this  because  the  store  owner  where  i  purchased  the  fixture  said  its  not  possible  to  use  a  tubes  of  different  K  rating.  
 
 2)  If  suppose  i  can  use  6500k  ones,  so  where  can  i  purchase  them.  Anybody  living  in  bangalore  has  an  idea  of  it.
 
 3)  Is  this  light  config  suitable/sufficient  for  growing  plants  especially  HC.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:51 am Post subject: Re: Regarding T5 light fixture Reply with quote

 Dear  Raul,
 Yes,  you  can  replace  these  tubes.  
 The  HC  business  depends  on  your  tank  dimensions.  
 I  was  just  wondering  if  those  were  24  W  or  28  W.
 I  remember  T5HO  2  feet  tubes  being  24  W.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:08 am Post subject: Re: Regarding T5 light fixture Reply with quote

 Give  the  tank  dimensions  and  other  details  like  substrate,  co2,  filtration  etc  Raul..
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:39 pm Post subject: Re: Regarding T5 light fixture Reply with quote

 Thank  you  for  the  reply.
 
 Sorry  Arin,  They  are  24  W  each.  Can  i  get  them  easily.  Do  i  need  to  look  out  for  them  in  electrical  shops?  Please  suggest.
 
 And  Nidhi,  Its  a  60x30x35  cm  tank.  Substrate  choice  is  either  ADA  powder/  fluval  shrimp  stratum.  After  small  research  found  that  growing  emersed  will  help  a  carpet,  CO2  Is  DIY.  Filtration  is  a  hang  on  back  with  some  ceramic  rings  and  foam.
 
 I  have  earlier  tried  the  same  lighting(24W*2)  with  some  chinese  substrate(rs400/5kg),  but  none  of  them  grew  nor  die.  Showed  some  pearling  but  didnt  carpet.  So  i  am  planning  to  replace  lights  with  6500k  and  sustrate  with  ada/  stratum  and  planning  for  dry  start.  Please  suggest  if  im  wrong.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Regarding T5 light fixture Reply with quote

 Very  difficult  to  get  24w  t5  tubes..
 DIY  co2  won't  be  stable,  will  cause  more  harm  than  good.
 Better  buy  a  new  lighting  unit..  Aim  for  minimum  of  55w  of  CFLs  or  t5.
 Go  for  good  substrate  like  amazonia  or  platinum  soil..
 Try  your  hand  on  gluteraldihide  for  co2  dosing.  But  be  careful  and  do  some  research  on  it  before  using.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:15 am Post subject: Re: Regarding T5 light fixture Reply with quote

 Dear  Raul,
 There  is  no  easy  answer  to  your  questions  about  carpeting.  
 Please  understand  that  people  speak  from  their  experience,  and  observations  from  others  tanks.
 From  what  I  understand,  for  HC  to  carpet,  you  need  good  lights,  good  CO2,  and  good  substrate.  
 
 I  would  suggest  the  following  -  
 Go  ahead  with  2*24W  6500  K  tubes,  if  you  can  find  them.  They  are  easily  available  in  Mumbai.
 Since  your  tank  is  narrow,  and  not  very  deep,  you  may  be  able  to  pull  it  off.
 If  you  can  run  DIY  CO2  with  two  bottles,  where  you  change  one  weekly  or  bi-weekly  (depending  on  the  strength  of  the  solution),  you  might  be  able  to  pull  off  stable  CO2  levels.  Glut  will  always  help,  but  is  never  a  complete  substitute  for  CO2.
 If  you  have  the  funds,  ADA  is  the  best  out  there.  Of  course,  do  not  buy  any  of  the  substrate  additives.  
 
 As  a  last  point,  I  would  recommend  Monte  Carlo  instead  of  HC.  It  is  more  easy-going  than  HC,  and  does  not  lift  up  when  the  carpeting  is  completed.  Of  course,  the  leaf  shape  is  larger.  Once  you  are  confident  with  growing  an  MC  carpet,  you  can  try  an  HC  one.
 
 Thanks,  
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:19 am Post subject: Re: Regarding T5 light fixture Reply with quote

 Dear  Raul,  
 I  forgot  to  talk  about  the  emersed  method.  
 The  plants  need  high  level  of  CO2  once  you  transition  them  from  the  emersed  form  to  the  submerged  form.  
 Again,  this  is  as  per  my  knowledge.  
 Without  this,  they  would  rot  away.
 Also,  dry  start  is  not  very  easily  achieved  in  Mumbai.  Bangalore  may  be  different.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Regarding T5 light fixture Reply with quote

 I  am  sure  of  one  thing  that  i  cant  afford  a  pressurised  co2  system.  Regarding  lights  i  can  try  searching  for  T5  24  W  (6500k).  I  f  i  cannot  find  them  anywhere  in  bangalore,  i  just  have  two  options  whether  i  can  use  my  existing  12000k  t5  24w  or  buy  a  cfl  (over  55w)  as  nidhi  says.  
 
 Yes  Arin,  Ill  try  with  monte  carlo  on  ada  substrate.  I  can  get  started  once  the  lighting  issue  is  resolved.  
 
 Are  these  t5  tubes  available  in  electrical  shops  or  should  i  search  only  with  aquarium  shops.
   
 Thanks,
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: Regarding T5 light fixture Reply with quote

 Dear  Raul,
 I  have  found  them  in  regular  shops.  
 You  can  also  request  them  to  bring  them  in.  
 
 Another  option  is  also  there,  albeit  somewhat  risky.  
 The  electronic  choke  in  your  light  is  meant  to  drive  two  24W  tubes.  
 So,  it  drives  around  24W  even  through  a  normal  output  two  feet  tube  (14W  ?).
 These  tubes  are  easily  available  in  regular  electrical  shops.
 
 But  please  do  this  at  your  own  risk,  and  after  some  reading.
 The  process  is  called  overdriving.
 I  have  done  it  without  any  hassles.  
 The  life  of  the  regular  T5  tube  (T5NO)  is  shortened,  and  you  should  change  them  every  year  (no  proof).
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:50 am Post subject: Re: Regarding T5 light fixture Reply with quote

 Arin,  thanks  for  the  info.  Is  there  any  way  i  can  know  if  the  tube  is  24w  HO  or  NO  unless  its  written  on  it.  I  guess  if  i  misplace  them  the  tube  may  blow.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: Regarding T5 light fixture Reply with quote

 Dear  Raul,
 The  tube  is  either  14  W  (NO)  or  24  W  (HO).  
 The  monikers  are  not  exchangeable.  
 Make  sure  you  don't  get  high  efficiency  (HE)  tubes,  which  are  different.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: Regarding T5 light fixture Reply with quote

 If  you  increase  lighting  with  out  increasing  CO2  then  you  will  have  too  much  algae  growth.  Its  better  to  go  with  low  light  plants.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Regarding T5 light fixture Reply with quote

 Thank  you  for  the  reply  guys.  Planning  my  light  based  on  all  the  reviews.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: Regarding T5 light fixture Reply with quote

 Dear  Raul,
 My  apologies  for  replying  somewhat  late.  
 I  agree  with  Preeths.  
 With  48  W  over  your  tank,  you  are  pushing  2.8  W  per  gallon  with  T5  lights.
 This  is  bordering  on  so-called  high  light.  
 So,  your  DIY  CO2  needs  to  be  spot  on,   with  preferably  two  bottles.  You  can  change  an  alternate  bottle  every  week.  
 I  would  also  suggest  supplementing  the  DIY  CO2  with  gluteraldehyde  dosing.  
 
 Of  course,  your  experience  is  what  counts  in  the  end.  
 Thanks,  
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