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Tirtha C
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 Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:39 am Post subject: Going Emmersed |
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“I lost My Matured planted tank completely this summer”, “All stems rot away due to heat”
If I start searching IAH forums, I will get these above strings many times posted by me. And this not only me, many of us faced the same situation.
This April I have started a planted tank spending lots of money and after doing lots of planning. Even I was lucky enough to get a chiller from Bappa to keep the tank running during summer. But could not defeat my poor fate. Ultimate heat and rampant power cut left my plants rotting when it started looking really cool.
I just wanted to avoid the same situation again and again and wanted to make my own plant culture so I can have a good varieties of plants with me all the time, use them whenever I want. Top of that I want to keep the maintenance and environmental interference to the least.
After looking here and there, I found the solution may be growing them emmersed (For most of the species). Low maintenance, fast, strong plants to fight the harsh weather.
So 3 weeks back, I have started my first emmersed culture. The idea is to make a stock of hard to get and costly plants.
I am having Staurogyne sp. Tropica with me for some time. In winter they were doing good. But in summer I almost lost them and left with 3 melted leafless twigs. So I started the culture with a very little hope in an ice cream box and some used Aquasoil.
Check the result after 3 weeks.
Now I am trying to find out some space in my balcony so I can put up a bigger setup to culture some more species like HC Cuba, Staurogyne sp. Porto Velho, P. helferi etc
Will keep updating the thread. If you have any emmersed culture running with you, please share some details and pictures. |
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Zakk
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:31 am Post subject: Re: Going Immersed |
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| i grow low light plants in the backyard as well. i dont really know the names but they are fairly easy to grow and dont burn out in the summer. |
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Linelogic
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:11 am Post subject: Re: Going Immersed |
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Thirtha,
I guess you mean emmersed ?! |
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sumer
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:16 am Post subject: Re: Going Immersed |
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yes yes, he means emersed.
@Tirtha a very nice start 
BDW tirtha how do u maintain the humidity around them..??
have you covered them with any glass box or something to maintain the moisture around them.
once i tried this with some crypts but their leaves dried out. |
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Rana
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:47 am Post subject: Re: Going Immersed |
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Tirtha
I have got lot of HM as emmersed growth in my garden. In fact that has become weed without any input from me.
In past I had HC Cuba, Glosso and Fern as emmersed form.
I took a plastic tray about 4" height, put some soil with humus mixture and put the plants from my tank. I poured RO water to make them submersed. Covered the tray with a plastic transparent sheet and then allowed the water to evaporate very slowly.
Every morning I used to spray water from a mist bottle to keep them moist.
Alternatively, put some submersed cutting of stem plants like star grass, rotala etc. in water filled bucket in floating condition. Put the bucket in balcony but away from direct sunrays. After few days, new growth will form as emmersed shoot. Cut those shoots and put as emmersed plant.
But in my experience, even then summer temperature plays havoc with emmersed growth also.
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vijaykgoa
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: Going Immersed |
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Hi,
I have a big nursery of HC running for the last 5 months. I have planted them on office plastic trays (those that cost around Rs 50 each). Filled up with aquasoil and just planted the HC stems. In around 9 weeks, the whole trays were covered with growth. I have 4 trays and all are kept outside in the balcony with no direct sunlight falling on them. In the beginning I had covered one of the trays with wrap on plastic sheet with small holes for air circulation, but the entire HC melted away. Most likely because of the heat inside the tray due to the plastic sheet (green house effect???). Keep the trays open, although this will make it necessary to water the trays everyday in the morning and the evening. I use a mister with some drops of Potassium fertilizer (Ferka Balance K).
Once the growth is lush, the frequency of watering or misting will go down (maybe the plants will retain/use the moisture judiciously). I have planted the emersed growth back into the different tanks (submerged) and none of the leaves have melted away but have grown and gone to establish themselves immersed.
Cheers,
Vijay. |
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Tirtha C
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Going Immersed |
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| Linelogic wrote (View Post):
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Thirtha,
I guess you mean emmersed ?!
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Thanks for the correction Prabhu. Some spellings I keep on typing wrong again and again. |
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Tirtha C
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Going Immersed |
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| Rana wrote (View Post):
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Tirtha
I have got lot of HM as emmersed growth in my garden. In fact that has become weed without any input from me.
In past I had HC Cuba, Glosso and Fern as emmersed form.
I took a plastic tray about 4" height, put some soil with humus mixture and put the plants from my tank. I poured RO water to make them submersed. Covered the tray with a plastic transparent sheet and then allowed the water to evaporate very slowly.
Every morning I used to spray water from a mist bottle to keep them moist.
Alternatively, put some submersed cutting of stem plants like star grass, rotala etc. in water filled bucket in floating condition. Put the bucket in balcony but away from direct sunrays. After few days, new growth will form as emmersed shoot. Cut those shoots and put as emmersed plant.
But in my experience, even then summer temperature plays havoc with emmersed growth also.
Regards
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Rana Da, Thanks for the inputs. Can you please drop your mobile number in PM. Want to talk.
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In the beginning I had covered one of the trays with wrap on plastic sheet with small holes for air circulation, but the entire HC melted away. Most likely because of the heat inside the tray due to the plastic sheet (green house effect???).
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Vijay... thanks for the inputs. Thats an real success. I think Your HC melted away due to extra high moisture. Once they will get the immersed growth, we need to reduce the moisture ie removing the top cover. |
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saikumar
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Going Immersed |
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Hi Vijay,
How cool are your summers? you updating your location will give us more insight.
Tirtha
one small point(ever poking guy)
Low maintenance, fast, strong plants to fight the harsh weather. = may be you should have slow growers.
How does Rajiv(scorpio) grow them in the similar temperatures? I suppose its more of powercuts rather than your summer temp. May be you should get your tank insured against this. 
Good luck with your setup.
I suppose you intended to post "Going Emmersed"?  |
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vijaykgoa
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: Going Emmersed |
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Hi Saikumar,
Based at Goa. The temperatures in May June reach upto 34 degrees. Now with the rains, they have come down to the high 20's.
Vijay. |
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Tirtha C
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Going Immersed |
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| saikumar wrote (View Post):
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Hi Vijay,
How cool are your summers? you updating your location will give us more insight.
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temp does not matter to grow HC emmersed. Sujoy growing HC on sand directly under sunlight here for last 2 years.
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Hi Vijay,
Tirtha
one small point(ever poking guy)
Low maintenance, fast, strong plants to fight the harsh weather. = may be you should have slow growers.
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Nothing will remain slow when growing emmersed.
Summer=Power Cut  |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: Going Emmersed |
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Hey tirtha
What is the gravel that you are using for emersed growth ?? |
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Hamza
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: Going Emmersed |
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Sad to hear about your tank. It was gorgeous in its early days, I wonder how it would have looked at its full glory.
And how about doing a paludarium now? |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:59 pm Post subject: Re: Going Emmersed |
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Tirthada, good start. Can it be done with normal soil,latterite etc? Is it necessary to water them every day twice?
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And how about doing a paludarium now?
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The available inhabitants? Is it possible with Open lid tanks, by any chance? |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:51 pm Post subject: Re: Going Emmersed |
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| Tirtha, you have given me a very good idea to do something in my less busy times. Thanks a ton. |
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