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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:13 am Post subject: Ocean free Humpy head or Ever red?? - caution!! Reply with quote

 Heres  a  word  of  caution..i'd  suggest  all  of  you  who'r  using  Ocean  free  Humpy  head  or  Ocean  free  Ever  Red,  to  stop  using  it  for  a  while  as  these  may  be  fake..  The  reason  is  that  Ocean  free's  parent  company  is  Qian-Hu  ..  and  on  the  Qian-Hu  website  there  is  no  mention  of  HUMPY  HEAD  or  EVER  RED  in  their  food  section...  When  i  contacted  a  person  from  Qian-Hu,  the  guy  seemed  a  little  confused  when  i  mentioned  this  Humpy  Head  and  Ever  Red...   Surprised  ...  Anyway  i'm  still  in  touch,  clarifying  this  out  with  them...  All  i  want  to  say  is,  don't  loose  those  precious  FHs  of  yours...  just  follow  d  link:  http://www.qianhu.com/   >>under  products>>Fish  Accessories>>Ocean  free
 
 I  might  be  wrong,  but  just  thought  id  warn  others  in  case  they  were  using  these  products.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: Ocean free Humpy head or Ever red?? - caution!! Reply with quote

 Angad,
 
 I  am  not  sure  if  Ocean  free  Humpy  head  and  Ever  Red  are  real  products  from  Qian-Hu.     I  can  certainly  confirm  one  thing.     During  official  trips  to  Singapore,  I  have  visited  Qian-Hu  atleast  5-6  times  in  the  last  2  years,  most  of  the  fish  food  products  that  they  have  are  not  listed  on  the  website.     For  instance,  I  bought  the  following  during  my  last  visit:
 
 SuperTROPICALPELLET
 SuperCICHLID
 SuperBLOODWORM
 
 and  I  have  seen  many  other  products  specifically  for  Arowanas,  FHs  etc.
 
 On  the  other  hand,  I  have  heard  a  lot  from  few  LFS  about  fake  products  being  available  in  India.
 
 I  would  be  interested  to  know  the  outcome  of  your  discussion  with  Qian-Hu  folks.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: Ocean free Humpy head or Ever red?? - caution!! Reply with quote

 Hi  Angad,
 
 I  am  100%  sure  that  they  are  not  fake  because  lots  of  time  I  have  imported  various  kinds  of  OCEAN  FREE  foods  from  Qianhu's  Bangkok  showroom.
 
 There  are  so  many  OCEAN  FREE  foods,  medicine,  filter  media  etc  available  with  them  which  are  still  not  listed  in  thier  web  site.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: Ocean free Humpy head or Ever red?? - caution!! Reply with quote

 Oh...  Jai  had  already  replied  the  thread.
 
 Anyways...  just  check  out  my  web  site  :  www.aquariumsindia.com/foods%20-%20ocean%20free.html
 There  are  4-5  different  kind  of  Ocean  Free  foods  available  with  me  which  are  also  not  listed  in  www.qianhu.com.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: Ocean free Humpy head or Ever red?? - caution!! Reply with quote

 I  guess  its  from  them  only,  as  my  friend  picked  up  about  a  dozen  cans  of  both  from  their  store,  in  Singapore!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Ocean free Humpy head or Ever red?? - caution!! Reply with quote

 it  is  these  store  people  who  seemed  puzzled  when  i  asked  them  about  the  Humpy  head..  and  now  there  is  suposedly  someone  in  Chennai  who  is  duplicating  Ocean  Free  products:  this  is  what  some  reputed  lfs  guys  told  me  yesterday...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: Ocean free Humpy head or Ever red?? - caution!! Reply with quote

 Tetra  is  being  duplicated  and  packed  in  in  Chennai  or  Duplicate  Tetra  food  is  being  repacked  in  Chennai  .  The  fake  stuff  leaches  orange  color  when  dropped  into  the  tank.
 
 Same  could  be  true  of  Ocean  Free  too.  The  Flower  horn  craze  will  spawn  everything  fake  wrt  to  Cichlids.
 
 As  for  Qian  Hu,  by  the  time  you  explain  to  them  in  English,  there  will  be  chaos  all  over.  Many  of  their  employees  will  not  be  aware  of  the  products  on  their  shelves  and  getting  onto  someone  higher  up  is  impossible.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: Ocean free Humpy head or Ever red?? - caution!! Reply with quote

 Had  seen  the  exact  same  ocean  free  tins  with  the  oval  logo  in  the  retail  shop  of  qian  hu,  so  methinks  they  might  be  orig.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:19 pm Post subject: Re: Ocean free Humpy head or Ever red?? - caution!! Reply with quote

 Both  Humpy  head  and  Ever  red  are  products  of  Ocean  free  indeed..........
 
 but  it  is  also  true  that  they  are  being  replicated  in  the  chennai  markets...One  of  the  LFS  guys  suggested  me  to  look  out  for  the  registered  logo(the  "r"  in  a  circle  above  the  prdouct  name)  above  the  Oceans  free  tag  on  the  pellet  bottle.But  am  not  sure  if  this  would  really  be  a  authentic  way  to  do  it  considering.....if  the  pellets  can  be  replicated,how  tough  would  it  be  to  print  a  R  trademark  in  the  bottle   Smile  
 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:46 am Post subject: Re: Ocean free Humpy head or Ever red?? - caution!! Reply with quote

                                                   
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Had  seen  the  exact  same  ocean  free  tins  with  the  oval  logo  in  the  retail  shop  of  qian  hu,  so  methinks  they  might  be  orig.                

 
 The  tins  are  original  but  the  contents  inside  are  not.  In  Chennai  if  you  are  not  buying  from  reputed  LFS  you  are  sure  to  be  duped.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:38 am Post subject: Re: Ocean free Humpy head or Ever red?? - caution!! Reply with quote

 Would  rather  suggest  feeding  dragon  pellets...they  are  really  good  and  have  always  managed  to  get  good  results  with  them
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 Madan,
   Any  way  to  detect  it  on  hand  before  trying...  I  know  for  sure  reputed  LFS  and  hobbiests  are  the  way  to  go...  But  does  any  thing  else  indicates  and  distinguishes  between  the  two.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: Ocean free Humpy head or Ever red?? - caution!! Reply with quote

 Fakes  are  deeper  orange/red  in  color.  They'll  release  an  orange  color  when  dropped  in  water.
 
 Don't  be  too  sure  of  "reputed"  LFS.  There's  nothing  like  that  IME.
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 IMO,  there  is  nothing  like  a  reputed  LFS  and  there  is  no  sort  of  benchmark  set  to  measure  the  reputation  and  quality.  Decisions  about  a  LFS  or  the  quality  of  product  sold  by  the  LFS  is  based  on  sound  judgement  and   reference  from  other  hobbyists.  
 
 One  of  my  friend  who  is  a  senior  pro  is  keeping  FHs  &  discus  has  had  mixed  results  with  tetrabits  for  discus  and  humpy  head  for  FH's.  Sometimes  he  gets  these  items  from  the  so  called  reputed  LFS  and  gets  duped  and  also  he  has  faced  situations  where  he  has  got  the  same  branded  items  from  relatively  unknown  LFS.  So  reputation  goes  for  a  six.....  The  market  is  flooded  with  cheap  and   fake  items.  There  is  so  much  of  rigging  in  food  items,  accessories  etc  ,  it  is  becoming  more  and  more  difficult  to  identify  the  genuine  stuff.  
 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:15 am Post subject: Re: Ocean free Humpy head or Ever red?? - caution!! Reply with quote

 Hey  Angad,  posting  the  pic  here  again  for  others  Smile
 
 This  is  wht  I  got  as  a  reply  from  Qian  Hu  Corp.
 
 How  to  identify  genuine  Humpy  Head  /  Ever  Red/  Starry  Red
 
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