Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Schooling Reef safe fish
nice to meet u here as well.
ya. anthia is what i asked about in earlier post
would look awsome. was just wondering if they will get too big eventually.
all in all it is not a 500gal setup
the tang is not a bad idea. but is yellow better or blue one (dory)
somewhere i read yellow tangs can be agressive.
damsel sey toh main thak gaya. kutch different
i think am gonna have to decide between anthias n chromis.
last time when we added the chromis, they paired off soon.
if they pair off then it looks lousy since it looks like too many of them and not schooling either
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: Schooling Reef safe fish
CHOOSING CORALS AND ANEMONES
When setting up your marine fish aquarium, it is possible to keep a number of invertebrates together, which would include corals, anemones, and shrimp. However, to make this blended family successful, some specific things should be understood. As an example, not all species are compatible. Therefore, by putting them all in the same aquarium, you would have one species eating another species. To get started with choosing corals and anemones, consider the following:
Â· A common group of anemones and corals are known as Cnidarians. Both of these invertebrates are attached to the bottom of the aquarium or some type of hard surface. Once there, they generally stay put. However, anemones and corals are popular in that they are colorful but you need to maintain optimal water quality.
Â· Although corals can be kept, anemones are much easier to maintain. Even so, both of these invertebrates will need the best possible water quality. This means good oxygen content, no nitrates, excellent aeration, and good circulation.
Â· Corals and anemones come in a variety of vibrant colors to include white, yellow, and pink, green, purple, orange, and red, which all depends on the color of the photosynthetic algae living in the tissue.
Â· Anemones are quite mobile, meaning they will slowly, creep along the bottom of the tank using what is called a Basal Disk. Once the anemone finds a comfortable spot, it will settle down.
Â· Common types of anemones are the Florida anemone, Clownfish, and Carpet anemone.
Keep in mind that your success in keeping anemones and corals will depend on choosing healthy ones. What you want to avoid are anemones that have open, loose mouths, torn bases, or deflated tentacles. A white or transparent anemone is generally healthy because they have expelled all the zooxanthellae. In fact, a healthy anemone can easily live to nine months or more. What happens is that as the anemone grows old, it will begin to waste away. Therefore, if you find an anemone that appears to be healthy but you notice the tentacles are short not long, this could be a sign of the deterioration process.
You should pay close attention when the anemone is removed from the aquarium at the pet store. If it was not well attached, it may not be healthy. The anemone should also provide some type of reaction to being pulled from its home. Then, the anemone should have a sticky feeling to the body. If that is missing, the ability to fire a stinging cell could be the problem, meaning the anemone is a fussy eater. Unfortunately, fussy anemones are difficult to spot and by the time you notice a problem, it is too late.
Now, if you keep Clownfish, they need a lot of light, usually between 3 to 6 watts per gallon. For this, we recommend you choose bulbs that are 50% actinic and 50% full spectrum. Most of their nutrition will be taken from symbiotic algae living within their own tissue. In addition, anemones prefer organic waste-free aquariums. Moderate current and clean water appear to be the two most important factors, along with water temperature of 78 to 80 degrees and a pH level of 8.2 to 8.4.
Anemones need to be fed three times a week to once bi-weekly. In other words, they all have their own preference. The food would include raw shrimp, but no larger than the anemoneâ€™s own mouth. Other frozen organisms such as lance fish, clams, silversides, and scallops are enjoyed. What you want to avoid is using liquid or target food, which can actually cause a problem with the water quality.
Best Anemone Choices
Some types of anemones that you might keep include:
Â· Saddle Carpet â€“ Reddish to pink color around the mouth, short tentacles, and densely packed.
Â· Maroon, Bubble-Tipped, or Bulb Anemone â€“ In captivity, they will temporarily lose their bubble tips. The tentacles are long and straight, usually with a greenish color. The color of this anemone varies also a rose color is common
Â· Long-Tentacled Anemone â€“ This anemone has long, smooth tentacles, a round, flat oral disk, and a base color of bright red or orange.
Worst Anemone Choices
These anemones are hard to keep:
Â· Sebae Anemone, Singapore Anemone, or Pink-Tipped Anemone â€“ The tentacles can be long and thin or short and fat with magenta to yellow/green color. The color of the anemone is typically white, pink, pink/purple, or yellow. For some reason, the white and yellow species are hard to keep alive.
Â· African Anemone, Ritteri, or Yellow-Tipped Anemone â€“ Tentacles are long with blunt tips and the base is red or purple. These anemones stay toward the waterâ€™s surface, needing extra bright lighting, which can have an affect on the other residents.
Â· Giant Carpet Anemone or Colored Carpet Anemone â€“ These anemones have short, pointed tentacles that vibrate. The anemone bas is blue, yellow, or bright green with white tips on the tentacles. Unfortunately, these anemones sting Clownfish. They will also eat other anemones, making them a poor choice.
This idea was send by a friend to me
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Schooling Reef safe fish
Hi ranjith,I know of a reef tank(actually mainly of zooanthids,mushrooms and the sorts)...which houses 9 yellow tangs.The day the tangs were released,there seemed to be a lot of displaying,face-offs.They must have been establishing the peck order.But now its a brilliant sight...at the risk of shifting all viewer attention from invertebrates to the yellow tangs busily pecking away at any algae,24/7!The tank is a rather large one,800 ltrs,6ftx2ftx2.5ftheight.With a fairly large sump ~ 400ltr.But I think if numbers are scaled down to match your tank,it should work.Dont expect any greenery to make it in such a tank(neither any maroon algae)
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: Schooling Reef safe fish
Although corals can be kept, anemones are much easier to maintain
I'm sure you will change your opinion once you keep them!!
Corals and anemones come in a variety of vibrant colors to include white, yellow, and pink, green, purple, orange, and red, which all depends on the color of the photosynthetic algae living in the tissue
The colour is not exactly the algae but the pigments that the algae produce to nullify the UV radiation. I can provide you a more elaborate explaination but, no point drifting off topic here..
Common types of anemones are the Florida anemone, Clownfish, and Carpet anemone.
I guess the author of these notes have never heard of so many other 'common' anemones like a carrot anemone or a club anemone or a bubble tip anemone etc etc...
In fact, a healthy anemone can easily live to nine months or more
Now, if you keep Clownfish, they need a lot of light, usually between 3 to 6 watts per gallon.
That is indeed interesting the author should realise that a clownfish does not have any symbiotic relation with zooxanthellae so they will practically live a healthy life even without any light at all!!!
Anyways, back to the topic.........
Buddy we must understand one thing that a coral reef is a very competitive environment where billions of life forms colonise a very small area and actually survive the competition by mass production. It is a garden that has learned to survive rather 'adapted' to the harsh conditions of a desert! Now, you must be wondering why do I compare such a rich ecology as a reef to a desert? well, it is the nutrition poor water that has almost nothing to offer and whatever is available gets consumed in a jiffy! The harsh storms, The tropical sun's constant radiation etc. These are some reasons for the corals to host zooxanthellae algae in it's polyps.
Again you must be wondering why am I saying all this? Well, to just give you an idea of how competitive life can be on a coral reef. This very instinct of survival tends to bring out a schooling or shoaling behaviour in fish. In a closed environment of an aquarium where the fish are well taken care of and there is no fear of predation they tend to branch out of the school and establish their own dominance, this often leads to a fight and as we all know the stronger one survives!!
If you want a schooling or a shoaling behaviour to be displayed the basic requirement is to have a very big tank jumbo in the real sense of the word, to replicate nature as closely as possible, over-crowd the tank (which is very difficult if not impossible to manage), have a dominating large fish in the tank which can pose a threat to the smaller ones (which is again tricky unless you work your brains off on the aquascaping) and so on and so forth.............
So, moral of the long story is not to desire something that will make life miserable for you
do yellow tangs require lots of caves? cause am planning to go slightly away from the regular aquascaping of a wall of rocks piled against the back glass.
I don't think so actually they are bold enough to venture out in the open but, the regal tangs are comparitively more timid and keep hiding once in a while infact sometimes even swimming in circles in and around their favourite hang outs. I guess Apurva had even uploaded a clip sometime back of his tang's strange swimming patterns.
will the tang leave the grass/weed alone or will it be biriyani for him?
depends upon how well you supplement their diet with greens and how many tangs you are housing compared to how many rocks of macro-algae you have in the tank. Mostly I feel they will relish the treat and very soon clear the rocks of all green.
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: Re: Schooling Reef safe fish
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In fact, a healthy anemone can easily live to nine months or more
>> what then-after??
that was just too much and i also burst at the seams
but maybe he dint mean to do what he did and made a mistake.
anyways, I like the perspective you gave me to keep things simple n manageable
I do know and agree 100% about the diversity stuff. have a video actually. let me know if there is some way to post it here as it is rather large AVI file around few 100 mbs. really nice one on lakshwadweep.
that is why i want to move to biotope and limit to one family instead of mix n match.
The tangs idea seems nice. i can already see 5 tangs swimming in my new tank
will keep the macro in the fudge.
btw, does the name "aquascapes" have anything to do with your expertise in aquascaping??? I could surely use some good pointers.
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