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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:16 pm Post subject: Algae Probs : Tufts! Reply with quote

 I'm  not  too  sure  what  this  algae  is  called!  A  breif  description  would  be;  its  not  green  in  color,  appears  in  small  tufts  on  both  the  plants  and  the  glass,  pretty  hard  to  remove  from  the  glass!
 
 I  didnt  have  these  probs  till  I  cut  the  ludwigia  and  replanted  all  the  cuttings.  now  there  is  a  terrible  algae  overload  on  the  java  fern  adn  everything...  
 
 How  do  I  get  rid  of  it?  
 
 I  have  the  green  algae  too,  but  thats  not  as  unsightly  as  this!
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 Hi  Abhi:
 Welcome  to  the  band  wagon  of  BBAG  (Black  Beard  Algae  Growers)...  :lol:  
 
 In  due  course  of  time,  I  guarantee,  you'll  become  a  Planted  Nut...  :lol:    :lol:  
 
 Most  importantly,  know  and  acknowledge  that  Algae  is  a  part  of  the  aquatic  ecosystem...
 Secondly,  the  elimination  of  algae  is  a  technique  which  you'll  learn  over  a  period  of  time...
 Note  that,  in  a  natural  biotope  (OR  ideal  aquatic  condition),  there'll  be  a  balance  between  the  three  important  factors:
 1.  Light
 2.  CO2
 3.  Fertilizers
 
 Combating  Algae  is,  striking  a  balance  of  these  three  factors...achieving  it  and  maintaining  it...
 
 This  ratio  is  unique  for  each  and  every  tank.  Hence,  solution  to  fight  algae  cannot  happen  in  a  shot.
 
 WRT  BBA,  it  is  one  of  the  toughest  algae  to  win-over...it  normally  comes  as  spores  with  rizhome  plants  (mostly)...and  thrives  at  High  CO2  Levels...
 
 Now,  it'll  be  a  long  fight  before  you  win...
 
 Firstly,  remove  all  of  this  algae  (as  much  as  possible)  using  a  sharp  object...(Initially,  this  BBA  has  to  be  removed  mechanically)...
 2.  Stop  your  fert  dosage
 3.  Stop  CO2  injection  (OR  minimise)...
 4.  Switch  off  lights...(OR  give  lighting  only  for  four  hours)
 5.  Everyday,  do  a  25%  WC  for  a  week...(Before  WC  observe  for  new  growths  and  remove  them)
 
 This  treatment  has  to  continue  till  such  time  that  all  physical  evidence  of  growth  has  been  eliminated...
 If  you  are  convinced,  then  Light  and  fert  can  continue  on  a  normal  course  and  CO2  after  a  week...Start  with  "Low  Dosage"...
 
 Keep  us  updated...
 Good  Luck...
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nag  wrote:                
Hi  Abhi:
 Welcome  to  the  band  wagon  of  BBAG  (Black  Beard  Algae  Growers)...  :lol:  
 
 In  due  course  of  time,  I  guarantee,  you'll  become  a  Planted  Nut...  :lol:    :lol:                  
I  think  I  already  am  becoming  one!  :lol:    I  probably  need  to  grow  my  beard  back  too!  Wink
 
                                                 
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Now,  it'll  be  a  long  fight  before  you  win...
 
 Firstly,  remove  all  of  this  algae  (as  much  as  possible)  using  a  sharp  object...(Initially,  this  BBA  has  to  be  removed  mechanically)...                
quite  painful  ,  since  its  showed  up  on  the  Java  fern!!
 
                                                 
nag  wrote:                
2.  Stop  your  fert  dosage
 3.  Stop  CO2  injection  (OR  minimise)...                
I  dont  do  both  of  these  on  this  tank...  Its  a  1ft  cube.
 
                                                 
nag  wrote:                
4.  Switch  off  lights...(OR  give  lighting  only  for  four  hours)                
Could  be  the  culprit  I  have  very  high  lighting  on  this...
 
                                                 
nag  wrote:                
5.  Everyday,  do  a  25%  WC  for  a  week...(Before  WC  observe  for  new  growths  and  remove  them)
 This  treatment  has  to  continue  till  such  time  that  all  physical  evidence  of  growth  has  been  eliminated...
 If  you  are  convinced,  then  Light  and  fert  can  continue  on  a  normal  course  and  CO2  after  a  week...Start  with  "Low  Dosage"...                
I've  made  a  note  of  this....  I  actually  started  this  small  cube  as  a  low  maintenance  setup!    :lol:  
 
                                                 
nag  wrote:                
Keep  us  updated...
 Good  Luck...
 Bye,                
I  will!  And  Thanks!
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 Just  as  an  after  thought;  no  fish  that  eat  this  algae?
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 HI  Abhi,
 WRT  removing  algae  i  would  suggest  you  not  to  remove  all  the  algae  at  a  stretch.    Algae  seem  to  have  a  balance  &  competition  between  themselves.    For  eg,  i  remove  algae  from  my  front  glass  of  the  tank  alone.    because  of  this  the  algae  on  other  three  sides  would  tend  to  suppress  any  other  algae  growth  and  as  a  result  the  algae  bloom  on  the  front  glass  is  controlled  to  a  certain  level.
 Think  light  may  be  the  culprit  in  your  case.    Is  your  tank  placed  in  a  place  where  there's  direct  sunlight  for  a  particular  time  of  the  day?  If  so  sunlight  triggers  algae  bloom.    Its  nature's  way  of  establishing  life  buddy!
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 No  direct  sunlight  on  this  tank.  Its  got  a  philips  23  watt  CFL  running  about  12hrs  a  day...  depending  on  the  time  I  get  home  after  work  etc.  
 
 And  I  never  clean  the  other  glasses  of  algae  other  than  the  viewing  glass..!
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 Yeah  Abhi  think  lighting  would  have  triggered  it.    You  have  approx  3  watts  of  light/gallon.    It  would  control  algae  if  you  could  provide  2  watts/gallon  or  8-10  hr  lightings.
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 Some  bba  eaters  I  can  think  off:
 Anostomus  ternetzi
 American  Flag  Fish
 Rosy  Barb
 Tropheus  sp.  (the  best)
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 Hi,
 
 I  had  serious  beard  algae  problem  when  I  was  feeding  my  fish  with  flakes  rich  in  phosphates.    High  phosphates  =  very  high  bread  algae.
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 To  add  to  what  Beta  said,
 the  fishes  will  no  doubt  do  their  job.  But,  only  on  fresh  spouts  of  algae...if  the  tufts  are  well  established,  no  fish  can  do  anything  about  it...needs  to  be  removed  mechanically...
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 High  Phosphates  are  a  result  of  left  over  food,  bore  well  water  high  in  mineral  content...could  even  be  more  stocking  levels...
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 Many  flakes  are  high  in  phosphates.  Several  of  us  have  noticed  that  certain  flakes  help  trigger  and  accelerates  the  BBA  plague.  Repacked  stuff  to  be  avoided.
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 Tropheus  sp.  does  the  job,  established  algae  or  not!!!
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 Hi  beta,
 
 
 I  am  having  hair  algae  problem  .  Can  Tropheus  sp.  make  my  eyes  happy  also  ?
 
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 About  food,  this  tank  only  get  Tetra  bits  and  BHM.  I  probably  overfeed  sometimes...  but  I  try  to  remove  the  excess  BHM  within  5mins...  I  love  to  see  them  fat  and  healthy...  ;-)  :lol:
 
 What  I've  done  yesterday  is  removed  all  the  algae  from  the  glass,  pruned  most  of  the  leaves  that  had  algae  and  left  the  lights  off  today.  
 
 About  stocking  levels,  this  tank  is  overstocked.  Has  8  fish  in  there...  a  pair  of  full  grown  balloon  mollies,  2  Red  flame  gouramis,  2  bronze  corys  and  2  peppered  corys.  But  the  fish  seem  to  be  happy,  because  of  the  amount  of  plants  in  there  i  think...the  mollies  are  breeding,  the  gouamis  have  their  bubble  nests..  the  corys  seem  happy  too,  no  sulking  anywhere...
 
 Anyways,  I'm  getting  a  new  tank  this  week  and  a  few  of  these  are  going  to  be  shifted...  maybe  all  of  them..  will  see..
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