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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:08 pm Post subject: 18" Cube Hi Tech Planted Tank Reply with quote

 Hi  All,
 
 I  have  got  an  Planted  Tank  setup  contract  in  a  Dr.  chember.  The  problem  is  he  want  the  tank  looks  like  this  only.  When  I  visited  the  chamber  yesterday  eve  to  look  out  for  the  best  place  where  I  can  put  the  tank.  The  best  suitable  size  of  the  tank  I  decided  will  be  18"  cube  into  that  chamber  because  there  is  very  less  empty  space  available  to  place  any  bigger  tank  than  18"  cube.
 
 
 The  tank  belongs  to  "Takashi  Amano"
 
 
 Plan  :
 According  to  our  plan.
 I  will  use  ADA  Amazonia  as  substrate.
 The  plants  I  have  choosen  are  :  Glossostigma,  Blyxa  Japonica,  Ech.  Tennelus,  Anubias  Nana  Gold,  Anubias  Petite  &  Java  Ferns  running  on  AquaEl  UniMax  150  cannister  filter  connected  with  surface  skimmer.  CO2  will  be  a  presurised  unit.
 
 After  looking  at  my  2'  cube  planted  tank,  He  also  wanted  his  tank  as  open  hood.  So  now,  the  lighting  system  will  be  2  x  13  watts  PLL,  Hang  on  system.
 
 Problem  :
 Making  this  kind  of  HI-TECH  tank  is  not  a  big  problem.
 I  am  worried  for  daily/weekly  maintainance  &  the  biggest  of  all  "Controlling  Algae"
 
 Look  forward  to  hear  soon  from  all  experienced  guys.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject: Re: 18" Cube Hi Tech Planted Tank Reply with quote

 Will  the  inhabitants  of  this  tank  be  discus?  In  that  case  won't  daily  water  changes  be  a  problem?  Also  isn't  an  18"  chamber  way  too  small  for  discus?
 If  he  plans  to  feed  the  fish  BHM,  its  going  to  be  very  very  difficult  to  keep  the  plants  clean..
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:10 am Post subject: Re: 18" Cube Hi Tech Planted Tank Reply with quote

 Rocky....18"  cube  means  a  11.5G  tank.  And  to  Grow  this  kind  of  lash  carpet  you  need  minimum  3.5-4  watt  per  Gallon  light.  2x13  will  not  serve  the  porpuse.  And  keeping  this  type  of  aquarium  is  not  matter  of  joke.  Not  only  Algae,  not  only  regular  water  change,  in  this  type  of  tank  you  have  to  face  challange  in  every  step.  And  the  most  important  part,  making  this  type  of  High  Tech  stunning  tank  needs  a  long  experience  in  Aquatic  Plants.  So  think  100  times  before  you  start  this  project.  Otherwise  there  will  be  a  flop  show.  
 
 I  would  suggest  you  to  convince  your  client  to  go  for  a  Low  Light  tank  with  lots  of  Ferns,  Anubias  and  moss  with  a  load  of  Shrimps.  And  to  give  this  type  of  lush  effect  in  fore  ground,  use  Riccia.
 
 Might  be  my  sugession  wont  sound  very  supportive  even  it  may  sound  bit  harsh.  But  before  starting  any  project,  we  should  think  about  all  the  negetive  points.  if  I  hurt  you  in  any  way,  I  am  sorry.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:59 am Post subject: Re: 18" Cube Hi Tech Planted Tank Reply with quote

 You  could  go  with  the  same  set  up  plan  but  with  a  bigger  tank  atleast  two  feet  tank,  I  would  recommend  not  to  add  any  fishes  in  the  beginning  stages.  If  possible  go  for  better  lights  (  ADA  Lights  itself).  You  could  use  Seachem  Flourish  Excel  in  double  or  triple  dosage  in  case  you  run  into  Algae  problems.  It  helps  you  a  great  deal  to  control  the  Algae.  I  have  read  in  many  forums  where  many  experienced  planted  aquarium  guys  use  flourish  excel  initially  to  control  the  algae  outbreak.  Give  it  a  try  .....  You  will  definitely  succeed   Smile   Smile  
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:07 am Post subject: Re: 18" Cube Hi Tech Planted Tank Reply with quote

 @  Pree,  No  Discus,  no  BHM  Smile  The  only  fish  will  be  Cardinals  with  few  cleaning  crews.  Smile  
 
 
                                                 
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Rocky....18"  cube  means  a  11.5G  tank.  And  to  Grow  this  kind  of  lash  carpet  you  need  minimum  3.5-4  watt  per  Gallon  light.  2x13  will  not  serve  the  porpuse.                
Are  you  sure  for  3.5-4  watts  p/g  lights?  In  past  few  days,  I  saw  some  beutiful  planted  tanks  in  Calcutta  with  gloss  bed  running  on  only  2  x  18  watts  Philips  True  Light  &  1  x  18  watts  Bio  Lux  (pink)  light.  The  canopy  is  having  mirror  as  light  reflector.  The  tank  size  is  30x18x18  inches.  Just  check  out  the  attached  pic.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:26 am Post subject: Re: 18" Cube Hi Tech Planted Tank Reply with quote

 Dear  Rocky
 I  must  admit  that  the  above  shown  Aquarium  is   truely  a  world  class  and  Mr  Tapas  should  be  a  very  proud  owner.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:27 am Post subject: Re: 18" Cube Hi Tech Planted Tank Reply with quote

                                                   
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And  keeping  this  type  of  aquarium  is  not  matter  of  joke.  Not  only  Algae,  not  only  regular  water  change,  in  this  type  of  tank  you  have  to  face  challange  in  every  step.  And  the  most  important  part,  making  this  type  of  High  Tech  stunning  tank  needs  a  long  experience  in  Aquatic  Plants.  So  think  100  times  before  you  start  this  project.  Otherwise  there  will  be  a  flop  show.                
I  know,  budy.  It  needs  a  long  experience  in  aquatic  plants  to  go  for  this  kind  of  setup.
 
 
 
                                                 
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I  would  suggest  you  to  convince  your  client  to  go  for  a  Low  Light  tank  with  lots  of  Ferns,  Anubias  and  moss  with  a  load  of  Shrimps.  And  to  give  this  type  of  lush  effect  in  fore  ground,  use  Riccia.                
I  have  already  tried  my  best  to  convince  him  a  lot,  but  it  seems  he  dont  want  to  listen  anything  except  this  tank.  He  needs  this  kind  of  tank  only  &  this  is  the  major  problem.
 
 
                                                 
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Might  be  my  sugession  wont  sound  very  supportive  even  it  may  sound  bit  harsh.  But  before  starting  any  project,  we  should  think  about  all  the  negetive  points.  if  I  hurt  you  in  any  way,  I  am  sorry.                  
Arre  yaar,  no  need  to  say  sorry,  I  know  you  are  100%  right  but  what  to  do  if  party  is  not  willing  to  understand  the  problem.  Drinking
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:49 am Post subject: Re: 18" Cube Hi Tech Planted Tank Reply with quote

                                                   
sridharp77  wrote  (View  Post):                
You  could  go  with  the  same  set  up  plan  but  with  a  bigger  tank  atleast  two  feet  tank                
Cant  go  for  bigger  tank  because  of  space  problem.  We  can  increase  the  height  but  not  the  length  and  after  lots  of  discussion,  we  finalized  for  18"  cube.
 
 
 
                                                 
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I  would  recommend  not  to  add  any  fishes  in  the  beginning  stages.  If  possible  go  for  better  lights  (  ADA  Lights  itself).                
 Earlier  I  thought  for  ADA  lights  only,  but  after  finalizing  the  tank  size,  we  are  not  abale  to  use  ADA  lights.  Tank  is  just  18"  cube  Sad  
 
 
 
                                                 
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 You  could  use  Seachem  Flourish  Excel  in  double  or  triple  dosage  in  case  you  run  into  Algae  problems.  It  helps  you  a  great  deal  to  control  the  Algae.  I  have  read  in  many  forums  where  many  experienced  planted  aquarium  guys  use  flourish  excel  initially  to  control  the  algae  outbreak.  Give  it  a  try  .....  You  will  definitely  succeed   Smile   Smile                
Yeah,  I  am  also  thinking  for  the  same  or  any  other  branded  ALGAE  controling  stuffs  to  get  rid  of  algae  blooms.
 
 
 Currently  I  am  using  PRODAC  Alga  control  to  prevent  algae  bloom  in  my  planted  tank  &  result  are  satisfactory.
 
 Anyways,  how  about  if  I  inject  more  CO2.  Will  it  control  algae?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: 18" Cube Hi Tech Planted Tank Reply with quote

 Injecting  more  CO2  will  kill  most  of  the  algae  like  BBA  and  GHA.  So  you  can  always  go  for  that.  But  make  sure,  the  Extra  CO2  is  getting  diffused  well  and  mixing  properly  in  the  water  column.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: 18" Cube Hi Tech Planted Tank Reply with quote

 Rocky
 
 Be  Practical,  the  picture  you  attached  belongs  to  Buro  aka  Tapas,  but  most  of  the  plants  are  low  to  medium  lights  plants  (Ludwigia,  Bacopa,  HM,  Ricia,  Rotala,  Ammania,  Anubias  etc.)  There  is  a  patch  of  Glosso,  but  that  patch  is   not  growing  fast.  
 
 However,  I  will  encourage  you  to  venture  provided  you  assure  the  following  :   
 
 Lights  (At  least  3  per  gallon  for  your  tank  size,  if  you  want  to  grow  lush  carpet  of  glosso  and  I  am  not  kidding!  
 
 Substrate  with  high  CEC,  Prodac  humus  will  help.
 
 Pressurised  CO2  with  proper  diffuser  and  reactor.
 
 Regular  Water  Change.
 
 Balanced  Fertiliser  regime.
 
 Control  of  Water  temperature  and
 
 MOST  Important  is  your  attention  to  this  tank.
 
 Wishing  you  all  the  best.
 
 Rana
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: 18" Cube Hi Tech Planted Tank Reply with quote

                                                   
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Be  Practical,  the  picture  you  attached  belongs  to  Buro  aka  Tapas,                
Yes,  Rana  Da.  The  tank  belongs  to  Buro  only.
 
 
 
                                                 
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However,  I  will  encourage  you  to  venture  provided  you  assure  the  following  :
 Lights  (At  least  3  per  gallon  for  your  tank  size,  if  you  want  to  grow  lush  carpet  of  glosso  and  I  am  not  kidding!                
can't,  he  have  seen  my  2  ft  cube  &  saying  he  needs  same  type  of  light  fixture  to  be  used  in  his  setup.  So  for  18"  tank  there  is  no  such  light  fixture  available.
 I  enquired  about  the  available  lights  fixtures  for  nano  tanks.  The  only  reply  I  have  got  is  there  are  2  types  of  ready  to  use  Hang  On  filxture  available  for  nano  tanks  &  those  are  of  11  &  13  watts.  So  hence,  I  decided  to  go  for  2  x  13  watts  of  fixture  for  this  setup.
 
 
 
                                                 
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Substrate  with  high  CEC,  Prodac  humus  will  help.                
Earlier,  I  have  decided  to  use  PRODAC  Humus  &  PRODAC  Humus  Plus  only.  But  the  problem  is  I  cant  use  this  substarte  without  any  gravel.  Gravel  is  must  to  use  with  Humus  &  Humus  Plus.  Hence  decided  to  use  ADA  without  any  gravel.
 
 
 
                                                 
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Pressurised  CO2  with  proper  diffuser  and  reactor.                
Will  be  useing  presurised  unit  with  reactor  only.  
 
 
 
                                                 
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Regular  Water  Change.                  
Weekly  50%  will  be  better  or  25%  twice  a  week?
 
 
 
                                                 
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Balanced  Fertiliser  regime.                
 PRODAC  Nutron  Ferro  &  Nutron  Flora  as  per  the  instructions.
 
 
 
                                                 
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Control  of  Water  temperature  and
 MOST  Important  is  your  attention  to  this  tank.                
The  chamber  is  AC  room.  But  it  runs  for  only  6  hrs  a  day.  Will  there  be  any  problem  with  Calcutta  heat.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: 18" Cube Hi Tech Planted Tank Reply with quote

 If  your  client  is  ready  to  spend  money,  go  with  DyMAX  MH  Series  Specially  for  Nano  Tanks.  Just  clump  them  on  Glass  wall,  you  are  done.
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