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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: Help needed in setting up a planted tank Reply with quote

 To  start  with  you  could  go  for  2  x  70W  bulbs  seperated  by  about  1ft  on  the  top  or  a  single  150W.  If  you  really  want  to  go  the  high  lights  one  then  probably  2  x  150W...  but  this  is  something  I  would  avoid  myself  unless  I  am  able  to  spend  a  lot  of  time  and  effort  on  the  tank  (which  is  very  difficult  once  you  have  a  family)
 
 The  problem  is  if  you  go  for  70W  halides,  they  would  be  pretty  much  useless  when  you  move  to  saltwater  as  the  only  corals  you  can  really  keep  under  70W  would  be  soft  corals  and  a  very  limited  stony  corals.  
 
 So  my  suggestion  would  be,  if  you  are  trying  to  practice  the  halide  plant  setup  for  marines  then  dont  bother.  The  2  are  so  far  different  that  it  wont  give  you  any  benefits.  If  you  do  want  to  keep  a  good  planted  tank  then  go  for  70W  halides  and  that  will  give  you  a  good  kick  start  and  you  can  compliment  it  further  with  T8s  if  you  need  more  light.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: Help needed in setting up a planted tank Reply with quote

 You  can  see  in  my  signature  one  of  the  small  tanks  that  I  setup  with  halide...  thats  a  70W  one.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Help needed in setting up a planted tank Reply with quote

 Thanks  for  the  info  mate  ..  and  whts  the  approx  height  above  the  water  surface,  the  MH  lamps  must  be  fixed  ??
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: Help needed in setting up a planted tank Reply with quote

 wht  will  u  do  if  u  were  me  ?  will  u  put  two  70  W  halides  or  one  150W  halide  ??  ill  be  going  to  get  the  soil  2m..  so  ill  keep  u  updated  wht  im  doin  ..  
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Help needed in setting up a planted tank Reply with quote

 If  I  were  you,  I  would  start  off  with  1  x  70W  halide  mounted  about  8"  above  water  level  and  have  2  x  48"  fluoroscents  in  there  to  compliment  it.  Have  the  halide  on  for  6  hrs  and  the  T8s  on  for  about  10  (trying  to  replicate  the  daylight  cycle).  As  you  think  you  need  more  light,  you  can  start  moving  the  halide  a  bit  down  by  a  couple  of  inches  untill  it  is  about  3"  above  water  level.  Keep  in  mind  that  at  3"  above  water  level  it  will  have  a  significant  effect  on  temperature  of  the  tank.  I  currently  have  mine  at  5"  but  then  heat  from  halide  is  a  much  less  thing  to  worry  about  in  the  UK  Wink  
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: Re: Help needed in setting up a planted tank Reply with quote

 lol..  Smile  but  i  tot  i  can  use  2  X  70  watt  halides  alone  ..  wont  it  do  ?   or  u  recommend  me  to  start  off  with  1  x  70W  halide  mounted  about  8"  above  water  level  and  have  2  x  48"  fluorescents  ??
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: Help needed in setting up a planted tank Reply with quote

 Start  with  one.  One  halide  will  not  be  enough  to  cover  up  a  5ft  tank  but  at  8"  height  it  should  be  able  to  do  most  of  the  bottom.  
 
 Are  you  planning  CO2  injection?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: Help needed in setting up a planted tank Reply with quote

 yeah..  im  going  2m  to  buy  a  diffuser  ,  the  soil  and  the  lamps...  
 
 so  now  halide  alone  will  do  for  lighting  at  the  moment  ??  
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: Help needed in setting up a planted tank Reply with quote

 Well,  it  can  but  as  I  mentioned  the  main  problem  with  halides  is  that  you  cannot  do  major  adjustments.  Its  certainly  something  to  try  for  if  you  follow  the  EI  method.  Just  make  sure  you  do  get  a  couple  of  fast  growing  plants  as  those  will  be  the  real  fighters  against  various  algae.
 
 Dont  worry  too  much  and  get  it  going  Smile  If  you  run  into  any  problems  then  I  am  sure  people  here  will  be  able  to  help  rectify  it.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Help needed in setting up a planted tank Reply with quote

 thanks  a  ton  mate..  ill  upload  ma  tanks  pic  soon  !!
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 i  am  gonna  use  6  X  Philips  True  Light  tubes...  will  it  be  enough  ?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: Re: Help needed in setting up a planted tank Reply with quote

 Hello  Vicky:
 
 did  not  see  this  thread  until  now.  Here  are  answers  to  few  of  the  questions  you  asked.  
 
 Q.  Where  do  I  get  the  substrate?
 
 A.  Any  construction  site.  Ask  for  "Kappi"  The  unused  rubble  thats  got  when  they  sieve  the  sand  for  plastering,  they  usually  try  to  get  rid  off.  You  need  to  work  on  it  a  bit  though.  Get  sieves  of  1mm  and  4mm.  Sieve  the  sand  using  both  the  sieves  and  then  you  arrive  at  the  desired  2-3mm  particle  size.  Please  make  sure  the  sand  you  collect  is  free  of  cement  particle  or  shells  in  it.
 
 Q.  What  light?
 
 A.  I  would  suggest  regular  fluroscent  lights.  The  reasons  mentioned  by  Prem  are  quite  right  and  I  dont  think  I  will  have  to  repeate  it.  
 
 The  substrate  is  laid  generally  in  this  way:
 
 As  a  general  thumb  rule,  we  usually  have  a  substrate  of  4  -  6  inches  in  case  the  tank  height  is  about  24".  This  gives  a  good  anchorage  for  plants.  Certain  rosette  plants  do  need  a  deep  bed  to  anchor  well.
 
 The  sieved  sand  and  the  laterite  mix  goes  to  the  bottom  most  level,  topped  with  washed  gravel  at  1:3  ratio.
 
 For  your  tank,  one  mug  of  laterite  will  be  more  than  sufficient.  I  usually  add  a  very  thin  layer  of  garden  soil  on  top  of  this  mix.  In  case  you  want  to  add,  please  make  sure  there  are  no  organic  material  in  it.  
 
 
 let  me  know  in  case  you  have  any  more  queries.
 
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Help needed in setting up a planted tank Reply with quote

                                                   
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i  am  gonna  use  6  X  Philips  True  Light  tubes...  will  it  be  enough  ?                

 
 
 More  than  enough
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: Help needed in setting up a planted tank Reply with quote

 thanks  a  lot  venket..  ill  be  setting  up  my  tank  this  weekend..  
 
 i  am  going  to  use  Riccia  fluitans  and  make  ma  tank  get  the  lawn  effect..  
 
 where  do  i  get  Wood  in  chennai  ??  i  mean  drift  wood  or  some  other  which  can  be  submerged
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 i  am  going  to  use  Riccia  fluitans  and  make  ma  tank  get  the  lawn  effect..  
                 

 
 
 In  case  you  are  looking  for  riccia,  you  are  welcome  to  take  from  me.  Please  DO  NOT  pay  a  bomb  and  buy  riccia.
 
 As  for  the  wood,  check  with  Southern  India  or  Aquasstar.
 
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