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 Very Happy  wokkay.I'm  sold.  :lol:    :lol:  ...unless  I  give  it  a  shot,i'd  be  the  one  to  lose  out  on  the  experience.
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 Great  to  see  you  all  fired  up  about  native  fish!!!!  Very Happy  
 
 I'd  like  to  add  some  more  to  the  list  Beta  started:
 
 Colisa  fasciata,  C.  labiosa:  mid  size  gouramies,  easy  to  spawn
 
 Trichogaster  (Colisa)  chuna:  small  jewel  of  a  gourami,  slightly  more  challenging  than  the  above,  still  do-able
 
 Macropodus  Spp.:  Look  similar  to  bettas,  small,  easy  to  breed.
 
 Puntius  conchonius,  P.  ticto,  P.terio,  P.fasciatus:  small  to  mid  sized  barbs,  colorful,  adaptable,  easy  to  spawn
 
 P.chola,  P.mahecola,  P.filamentosa,  P.aurulius:  Mid  to  large  sized  barbs,  very  active,  can  bully  smaller  fish
 
 P.gelius:  small  barb,  rivals  the  rasboras  in  beauty,  keep  in  shoals,  species  tank  recommended.
 
 Several  species  of  Badis,  small,  similar  to  dwarf  cichlids,  easy  to  breed.  If  you  like  a  challenge,  try  any  of  the  Nandus  or  Pristolepis  Spp.
 
 For  catfish,  I'd  recommend  a  small  shoal  of  Mystus  vittatus  or  Neotropius  Spp  for  a  community  tank  or  M.cavassius,  M.  tengara  for  a  species  tank.  They  have  been  spawned  in  aquaria,  but  mmore  by  accident  than  design.
 
 Finally,  all  loaches  of  the  genus  Botia  are  highly  recommended:  B.almorhae  (lohachata),  L.dario,  L.rostrata,  B.striata  and  B.geto
 
 If  you  want  to  try  a  hillstream  biotope,  some  Rasbora  trilineata,  P.denisonii,  any  of  the  danios  or  Barilius  Spp.  combined  with  loaches  of  the  genus  Schistura  or  Noemacheilus  look  amazing.
 
 Keep  the  ideas  flowing  folks!!!
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 Well,  running  through...
 
 Rahul,  what  of  these  combination  would  make  great  community  tank?
 And  what  local  sp.  of  plants  can  be  kept  along...
 I'd  love  to  have  a  setup  like  this...  Very Happy  
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 Hi  Nag,
 A  pair  of  P.denisonii-Red  Line  Torpedo  or  Red  Bean,  P.filamentosus-Black  Spotted  Barb  or  Bird  Eye  Barb,  B.bekeri-blue  dotted  hill  trout,  D.malabaricus-Malabar  Danio,  D.aquipinneatus-Giant  Danio,  E.maculatus-Orange  Chromide  &  Pristolepis  malabaricus-Malabar  sun  fish  (wild  caught  by  fishermen  in  Acchankovil,  kerala)  is  what  i  had  in  a  55  gal  tank...with  a  big  piece  of  drift  wood  with  bacopa,  aponogedon  and  java  fern  (non  native).
 The  first  3  were  around  5"  others  not  more  than  4".
 I  guarantee....this  would  be  a  true  feast  for  eyes.
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 Hi:
 
 And  can  you  pls  provide  some  links  to  their  photographs  and  their  availability...
 Thanks,
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 I  agree  with  nag,
 
 finding  out  about  this  is  exciting,  but  availability  is  key.    have  you  tried  an  lfs?  they  stock  exotics  quite  a  bit  too...  so  how  do  you  go  about  finding  the  locals??
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 The  best  thing  about  native  fish  is  you  can  go  out  and  catch  your  own    :lol:  ,  but  many  LFS  in  Calcutta  stock  these  fish  and  I  am  sure  SIA  can  get  them  for  you...
 
 The  thing  with  barbs,  rasboras  is  you  need  large  shoals...  I  would  recommend  a  3'X15"x15"  tank  for  a  community.  Substrate  should  be  a  mix  of  coarse  sand  and  fine  gravel,  with  a  few  large  rocks  or  pieces  of  drift  wood.  Use  a  powerhead  to  maintain  a  current  in  the  tank.  Their  natural  habitats  tend  not  to  have  a  lot  of  plants,  just  a  few  clumps  here  and  there...you  can  recreate  this  with  vals,  hydrilla  and  hornwort,  a  large  crypt  or  amazon  can  be  the  centerpiece...to  this  tank  add  a  shoal  of  10-15  of  your  favourite  barb,  and  10-15  of  your  favourite  danio/rasbora.  a  trio  of  gouramies  and  4-6  loaches  or  small  catfish  will  complete  your  setup.  You  could  keep  etroplus  in  such  a  setup  too.
 
 A  superb  miniature  tank  would  be  a  1'x6"x6"  with  lots  of  wood  and  java  moss,  housing  a  trio  of  Badis  or  a  trio  of  killies  or  10-12  P.gelius.
 
 The  above  are  all  sort  of  biotope  setups...If  you  feel  the  need  to  experiment,  this  is  from  planet  catfish
 
 
 
 And  this  is  the  thread
 River  tank
 
 Imagine  that  tank  with  shoals  of  danios,  Barilius  Spp.,  Flying  barbs,  Chela  Spp.  etc
 Add  some  Schistura  or  Noemacheilus  and  you  are  good  to  go.
 
 Lancelot,  one  of  the  problems  of  not  many  people  keeping  Indian  fish  is  there  is  little  info  and  almost  no  pics  of  them  available...
 This  page
 
 Indian  Aquarium  Fish
 
 has  some  pics  but,  some  of  the  fish  are  misidentified  and  the  pics  don't  really  do  the  fish  any  justice.  Trust  me,  they  all  look  much  prettier  in  real  life.
 
 I  will  post  my  experiences  with  some  of  these  fish  shortly,  no  pics  unfortunately  Sad
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 Here's  a  nice  link:
 http://www.ornamentalfishes.org/html/family.htm
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Lancelot  wrote:                
I  agree  with  nag,
 
 finding  out  about  this  is  exciting,  but  availability  is  key.    have  you  tried  an  lfs?  they  stock  exotics  quite  a  bit  too...  so  how  do  you  go  about  finding  the  locals??                

 Will  be  taking  you  on  our  next  fish  collection  trip  which  will  most  probably  be  in  the  last  week  of  this  month  or  before.  Please  provide  contact  information  and  do  not  back  out  at  the  last  moment.  :wink:  
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Here's  a  nice  link:
 http://www.ornamentalfishes.org/html/family.htm                

 
 Hi  Madhu
 
 Very  beautiful  link.  What  a  wealth  "Gods  own  Country"  has    Exclamation    Exclamation    Exclamation  
 
 Did  i  see  a  malabar  Danio  in  your  house  last  week???
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 Hi
 Those  links  by  retro  and  madhu  have  gotten  me  inspired  Very Happy  ...  time  to  start  keeping  native  indians(fish)    Smile    Smile    Smile
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 Did  i  see  a  malabar  Danio  in  your  house  last  week???                

 No  Venki  you  saw  only  my  glass  tank  occupants.  I  have  my  native  guys  in  the  two  cement  tanks  that  you  saw  in  my  backyard.
 I  dont  have  malabar  danio  now,  only  giant  danios.    Ones  you  saw  in  my  Arowana  tank,  those  eels  (tyretracks,  peacocks  &  fresh  water  morays)  are  wild  caught  natives.
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 Just  one  small  question  about  the  picture(the  thread"river  tank",actually)...is  that  an  undergravel  filter  that  whitepine  describes?is  it  just  for  creating  a  river  current?do  plants  do  well  with  an  undergravel  water  movement?
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 Murthy,
                           No,  it  is  not  an  UG  filter,  the  pipes  are  merely  to  pull  water  from  the  other  side  of  the  tank  to  the  powerhead...thus  inlet  and  outlet  are  at  opposite  ends  of  the  tank.
 FWIW,  I  don't  see  any  problems  in  mixing  UG's  and  plants,  but  I'm  not  a  plant  guy  :lol:


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trevor  wrote:                
Will  be  taking  you  on  our  next  fish  collection  trip  which  will  most  probably  be  in  the  last  week  of  this  month  or  before.  Please  provide  contact  information  and  do  not  back  out  at  the  last  moment.  :wink:  
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 sure...    Very Happy  
 
 heard  too  many  good  things  about  these  trips  to  miss  out...  just  hope  i'm  off  that  day..    :wink:
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