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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:13 am Post subject: HC Cuba Challenge! Reply with quote

 Hi  all,
 
 I  am  really  curious  to  know  if  anyone  on  this  site  has  really  succeded  in  growing  a  HC  Cuba  carpet  that  is  as  good  as  the  pictures  we  see  on  the  net....
 
 HC  Cuba  is  a  beautiful  and  perhaps  an  extremelyu  addictive  plant...But  given  the  water  temperature  in  India  (except  Bangalore,  perhaps)  is  it  possible  to  have  a  HC  carpet  at  all.  Or  is  it  a  mere  deram  (and  waste  of  money)...
 
 If  anyone  has  had  success,  could  you  please  share  your  experience,  tips  and  photos  please?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: HC Cuba Challenge! Reply with quote

 A  lot  of  guys  have  done  it.
 http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=7697
 
 Look  for  I  think,  Nitin's  tank  in  old  posts.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: HC Cuba Challenge! Reply with quote

 Thanks  Pradeep....I  remember  having  read  this  post...
 
 But  there  is  a  big  difference  between  growig  it  emersed  in  a  plastic  tray  and  growing/keeping  it  inside  an  aquarium  as  a  nice  carpet...
 
 I  really  wonder  if  anyone  in  IAH  has  a  nice  large  HC  carpet  in  a  functional  aquarium?
 
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 IMO  its  extremly  difficult  and  a  very  sensitive  plant.  I  have  little  plonked  into  my  nano  tank  .  It  does  grow  but  not  as  expected  as  a  carpet  .  I  find  bits  of  it  floating  in  the  tank  due  to  my  amano  shrimps  who  frequently  keep  digging  between  the  ADA  soil  for  micro  worms  and  other  morsels  they  can  find.
 
                   I  think  this  plant  will  do  extremly  well  in  high  co2,  light  and  fert  tank  where  there  is  no  life  stock  ....i.e  only  planted  set-up.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: HC Cuba Challenge! Reply with quote

 Hi
 
 Read  this  and  this  should  give  you  an  answer...
 
 http://www.barrreport.com/articles/3361-new-methoid-make-nice-rug-hc-before-you-add-water.html
 
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 Sujoy,  I  have  also  read  this  article  and  before  reading  only  I  tried  to  grow  them  immersed.  Reading  it,  I  could  only  agree  as  I  have  tried  to  grow  them  submerged  too.
 
 But  the  question  remains  that  when  you  replant  them  in  a  submerged  conditions  they  do  not  grow  that  easily  as  emerged  specimens.  Have  you  encountered  the  same  or  has  it  been  a  different  experience  for  you?  Pls  let  us  know.
 
 Mine  grows  well  when  immersed  but  I  get  lot  of  hair  algae  and  green  beard  algae  problems  when  I  transplant  them  in  to  water.  But  this  was  before  I  had  pressurised  Co2  but  even  after  the  pressurised  C02  it  is  not  doing  very  well  albeit  there  is  no  algae.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: Re: HC Cuba Challenge! Reply with quote

 Anand
 
 I  think  you  can  grow  this  plant  very  well  in  submersed  form  also  and  grow  a  lush  carpet.  However  the  carpet  will  not  sustain  for  a  long  time  and  you  need  to  redo  your  work  in  cyclic  way.
 
 First  is  water  temperature,  the  water  temperature  should  not  exceed  26  degree  C.
 
 Second  is  good  nutrition  in  water  column,  nitrate  level  >  5  ppm  will  help  to  grow  the  carpet  very  quickly.
 
 Third  is  light,  do  not  put  under  very  bright  light,  otherwise  you  will  face  algae  problem.  HC  Cuba  can  sustain  medium  light;  grows  very  well  at  light  level  @  2  watt/gallon.  Still  if  you  face  hair  algae,   dose  excel   with  regular  water  change.  If  you  face  brown  algae  on  the  leaves,  just  increase  the  nitrate  level.
 
 Here  is  one  picture  from  my  tank.  CO2  was  delivered  from  DIY  system.
 
 I  am  just  sharing  my  experience  on  this.  
 
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 HC  Cuba  takes  some  time  (say  about  two  weeks)  to  adapt  to  submersed  growth  from  emersed  growth.  This  period  is  critical  to  avoid  algae  problem.  Substrate  is  not  that  important.  But  do  not  try  to  grow  this  plant  in  sand.
 
 when  the  carpet  grows  well,  it  become  very  thick  and  light  does   not  penetrate  at  the  bottom  layer,  so  after  some  time  (say  2  months)  bottom  portion  starts  to  rot.  At  this  time  you  need  to  redo  your  work  once  again.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:51 am Post subject: Re: HC Cuba Challenge! Reply with quote

 I  havent  done  grown  HC  till  now.  My  tank  carpet  was  glosso!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: Re: HC Cuba Challenge! Reply with quote

 Rana  da  the  carpet  is  looking  great
 thanks  for  your  informations  Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:52 am Post subject: Re: HC Cuba Challenge! Reply with quote

                                                   
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 First  is  water  temperature,  the  water  temperature  should  not  exceed  26  degree  C.
 
 Second  is  good  nutrition  in  water  column,  nitrate  level  >  5  ppm  will  help  to  grow  the  carpet  very  quickly.
 
 Third  is  light,  do  not  put  under  very  bright  light,  otherwise  you  will  face  algae  problem.  HC  Cuba  can  sustain  medium  light;  grows  very  well  at  light  level  @  2  watt/gallon.  Still  if  you  face  hair  algae,  Â dose  excel  Â with  regular  water  change.  If  you  face  brown  algae  on  the  leaves,  just  increase  the  nitrate  level.
                 

 
 Rana  Da  hit  the  Bulls  Eye.  Smile  I  think  Temp  is  the  only  crutial  factor  while  growing  HC.  temparature  >  26  degree,  either  HC  will  melt  or  it  will  just  refuse  to  grow.  
 
 And  as  much  as  you  can  provide  CO2,  the  growth  will  be  fast.  A  fertile  bed  is  not  required  to  grow  HC  always.  You  just  dose  the  water  column,  they  will  grow  well.
 
 Another  findings.....  HC  does  not  do  well  in  Excel.  And  medium  light  will  be  good  enough  to  get  a  nice  growth  of  HC.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:17 am Post subject: Re: HC Cuba Challenge! Reply with quote

 Rana,  thanks  for  the  tips  and  the  photograph...your  lawn  looks  fabulous
 
 Will  regular  trimming  help  prevent  rotting  at  the  bottom?
 
 BUt  with  a  temperature  requirement  of  less  than  26  degress,  guess  I  might  as  well  forget  all  dreams  of  HC  in  Mumbai...
 
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